Rah To Fly For Midwest Express

[OurMoney1]

But then in a year or two you will ask yourself why labor always gets the bad hand; because we allow crap like this to happen.

If you support this your a danger to organized labor and don't deserve to be commanding an aircraft. This is the type of tactics that need to be dealt with early and swiftly.

So while the company heads for the perpetual iceberg they establish a new norm, another disaster in the making.

 

[deadstick]

No pilot other than pilots of RAH will fly RAH airplanes.

Just curious...
Who's name is on the registration of those aircraft?
If it's not "RAH," what makes an RAH aircraft an "RAH aircraft?"

 

[Airline Driver]

Just curious...
Who's name is on the registration of those aircraft?
If it's not "RAH," what makes an RAH aircraft an "RAH aircraft?"

I have seen a two names depending on the airplane. I have seen "Wells Fargo" and I have seen "Republic"
Let me Clarify my last statement about RAH Pilots flying RAH airplane's. It is our in our contract and it states that all flying done under Republic Airways Holdings will be flown by Republic Airways Holdings Pilots. Now Playing devil's advocate you could look at it this way. "If", Midwest gets a training program up and running and does choose to operate the 170's using their own pilot group, wile continuing to lease our 170's from US. I guess you could say that RAH is no longer operating the airplanes they are leasing the airplanes there for not requiring RAH pilots to fly them. Another way around our contract due to bad verbiage which is probably how our company is looking at the situation from our contracts point of view. It is still fishy but I am hopeful that once our union gets a hold of what is going on we will get a better handle o the situation. I truly due hope this mess benefits both our pilot groups.

 

[Grey Ghost]

And you wouldnt lose any money...first year Dash pay at PDT is a few dollars more than jets twice as big.

thats the only way piedmont can get anyone nowadays!!!!!!

 

[ballsdeep123]

half right, the chq downgrades were pushed up, all the 170 republic downgrades were canceled. i believe it was about 18-20 guys affected, the republic downgrades were the most senior.

yea no downgrades at rp side chq 28 145capts degraded along with 20 crj captns hopefully bedford atleast puts some lube in our v files.

 

[dooork]

I have seen a two names depending on the airplane. I have seen "Wells Fargo" and I have seen "Republic"
Let me Clarify my last statement about RAH Pilots flying RAH airplane's. It is our in our contract and it states that all flying done under Republic Airways Holdings will be flown by Republic Airways Holdings Pilots. Now Playing devil's advocate you could look at it this way. "If", Midwest gets a training program up and running and does choose to operate the 170's using their own pilot group, wile continuing to lease our 170's from US. I guess you could say that RAH is no longer operating the airplanes they are leasing the airplanes there for not requiring RAH pilots to fly them. Another way around our contract due to bad verbiage which is probably how our company is looking at the situation from our contracts point of view. It is still fishy but I am hopeful that once our union gets a hold of what is going on we will get a better handle o the situation. I truly due hope this mess benefits both our pilot groups.

It will benifit RAH pilots at first then maybe Midwest pilots later, it will not beifit both at the same time.Look in your contract and see if there is a paragraph about wet leases.

 

[Turtlesfly]

the only thing that's wet are the RAH pilots jumping at the chance to fly more big jets.

 

[ballsdeep123]

Yea we're jumping for joy. as said earlier no one here wants this crap. But yea all the pilots here were given the opportunity to negiotate this contract with midwest. Give me a F**king break, none of these regionals are better than any other and if your company got another contract you wouldnt have any say in it period. YOU and everyone else at your cry baby company would show up and do your pathetic job. This is what it has become we're all little people being told what to do. If one does not like it go start your own business and cry to your employees. We all suck and and this is what we do. boo hoo

 

[The Drizzle]

the only thing that's wet are the RAH pilots jumping at the chance to fly more big jets.

******************** you, you simp.

 

[imacdog]

What a disgrace.

Let's consider the source of this statement for just a minute.

 

[Airline Driver]

It will benifit RAH pilots at first then maybe Midwest pilots later, it will not beifit both at the same time.Look in your contract and see if there is a paragraph about wet leases.

In the short run yes it will benefit the RAH pilot group. in the long run, too soon to tell. We can all speculate and guess but the future holds what the future holds.

On page 1.6 of our contract. DRY/WET Lease. " The company will not enter into any dry/wet lease agreement, or contract with or for any other carrier or entities (government, military or commercial) without mutual agreement with the union"

Since this thing was dumped on us last minute and we found out though the media and or CEO there was no time to say yes or no. Now there is still a year and a half left to see what will happen but our union is on it.

The airline industry or every industry for that matter has become managements game of chess. They are the kings we are the pawns. They make all the money at the expense of their employees. Our industry changing drastically. We all have a choice to make, either go with the change or get out. But Never Never Cross a picket line.

 

[dupawolowa]

Sad but True - but it's a "Dog Eat Dog" world out there, in today's airline business. In my opinion, Midwest management is betting that their pilots will never certify/transition/or fly the E170s. Republic will operate them at a much lower cost, helping Midwest stay afloat and hopefully weather the storm. And, just in case they go T*ts Up, Brother Bedford has made sure he gets first dibs on what's left over! Sucks for the Midwest guys, I'd hate to see anyone lose their jobs.

 

[TAWS]

YX guys may fall into the trap of "capturing the flying" - this ALPA tactic will backfire for all of us, by keeping the E170 rates below what they should be. It's a pity that their pilots just can't walk out and call mngt's bluff. If this were to happen mngt everywhere would change their minds about this business practice.
YX mngt are a bunch of scumbags who had a great airline and ran it into the ground - they don't want their own guys to fly the equipment ever. Why? Because it's easier to use sub contractors, then you don't have to bother with labor/training etc...

 

[dooork]

In the short run yes it will benefit the RAH pilot group. in the long run, too soon to tell. We can all speculate and guess but the future holds what the future holds.

On page 1.6 of our contract. DRY/WET Lease. " The company will not enter into any dry/wet lease agreement, or contract with or for any other carrier or entities (government, military or commercial) without mutual agreement with the union"

Since this thing was dumped on us last minute and we found out though the media and or CEO there was no time to say yes or no. Now there is still a year and a half left to see what will happen but our union is on it.

The airline industry or every industry for that matter has become managements game of chess. They are the kings we are the pawns. They make all the money at the expense of their employees. Our industry changing drastically. We all have a choice to make, either go with the change or get out. But Never Never Cross a picket line.

Point made then. In your contract it says they can not enter into....etc. But they did anyway!

 

[relief tube]

and taking up gate space in PIT.

Have you been to pitt lately? They actually look better there cuz it makes the airport look less like a ghost town.

 

[BigLebowski]

I have a question for you RAH guys.

Management at SkyW has said that if there is a Midwest strike; we will honor them and not fly as well. Will you do the same?

Also I read on the forum today that we will be losing a few of our routes to you for Midwest. What are your thoughts on this?

I'm really glad that B*dford whor*d himself out to get this flying. I just hope that you people have the backbone to do the right thing.

 

[BoilerUP]

I have a question for you RAH guys.

Management at SkyW has said that if there is a Midwest strike; we will honor them and not fly as well. Will you do the same?

Also I read on the forum today that we will be losing a few of our routes to you for Midwest. What are your thoughts on this?

I'm really glad that B*dford whor*d himself out to get this flying. I just hope that you people have the backbone to do the right thing.

This is a rich post considering Skyway was put out of business and their flying replaced by Skywest...

...but I'll throw out a guess that RAH union pilots will refuse any struck work, should it get to that.

 

[BigLebowski]

This is a rich post considering Skyway was put out of business and their flying replaced by Skywest...

...but I'll throw out a guess that RAH union pilots will refuse any struck work, should it get to that.

Correct we did take over the routes that SkyWay flew.

However;

We did not do this as a bargaining tool to force Midwest pilots into more concessions.

JA did not pay Midwest management $25 million to fly the routes.

Additionally preferential interviews were held for Skyway pilots although the nature of the industry prevented us from hiring for a while.

 

[deadstick]

This is a rich post considering Skyway was put out of business and their flying replaced by Skywest...

...but I'll throw out a guess that RAH union pilots will refuse any struck work, should it get to that.

Ok, would the "struck work" be the YX city pairs (717/80 flights) or ANY Midwest Connect flying (MKE-GRB/MKG/FNT)?

 

[crzepilot]

In the short run yes it will benefit the RAH pilot group. in the long run, too soon to tell. We can all speculate and guess but the future holds what the future holds.

On page 1.6 of our contract. DRY/WET Lease. " The company will not enter into any dry/wet lease agreement, or contract with or for any other carrier or entities (government, military or commercial) without mutual agreement with the union"

Since this thing was dumped on us last minute and we found out though the media and or CEO there was no time to say yes or no. Now there is still a year and a half left to see what will happen but our union is on it.

The airline industry or every industry for that matter has become managements game of chess. They are the kings we are the pawns. They make all the money at the expense of their employees. Our industry changing drastically. We all have a choice to make, either go with the change or get out. But Never Never Cross a picket line.

Give me a break....Your contract! What is the point with you guys.