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[ACL65PILOT]

And as you well know--that turn is totally dependent on the readiness, attitude, and efficiency of the Above Wing and Below Wing, fellow team members. Oops, those are now mainline employees, and in Atlanta usually the new hires!

25 minute turns are very possible--the flight crews are generally not the problem. However, there is no recovery time if the flight is running late.

Do you still cross seat belts on your 767?

If I tried to go anywhere near a seat when the cleaners are on board, I would be killed. I have never seen such quick motivated individuals who get paid by the hr. I have seen them clean a trashed 767 in under five minutes. The most difficult thing about turning a 767 in min time is getting to the flight deck while they are boarding.

FWIW. I have turned a 757 in 24 min and a 767 in 33. It can be done.

 

[DoinTime]

If I tried to go anywhere near a seat when the cleaners are on board, I would be killed. I have never seen such quick motivated individuals who get paid by the hr. I have seen them clean a trashed 767 in under five minutes. The most difficult thing about turning a 767 in min time is getting to the flight deck while they are boarding.

Unfortunately, the lowest cost bidder on regional services does not share this motivation. If Delta gets poor service from their regional partners the only one to blame is Delta.


[/quote]FWIW. I have turned a 757 in 24 min and a 767 in 33. It can be done.[/QUOTE]

Its not worth anything but for the record I've turned a Saab in 4 minutes and a CRJ in 9.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Joe, there are some years that we will need to hire over 800 just to keep up with attrition.

I agree that if we hire the next few years it will be small. Now starting in 2012 the game is on. We will start and probably not stop for 20 years.

Post the attrition numbers for the next 10 years.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

2009 6
2010 13
2011 15
2012 24
2013 139
2014 238
2015 278
2016 329
2017 386
2018 469
2019 558
2020 644
2021 829
2022 869
2023 821
2024 809
2025 722
2026 622
2027 514
2028 480
2029 477
2030 493
2031 435
2032 329
2033 259
2034 166
2035 108

After 2035 it goes to less than 100 a year.

 

[PCL_128]

How can you have retirements in the next few years? Those must be old age 60 numbers.

 

[Cobraair75drvr]

NWA had 50+(over 60) flying S/O in Anc or on long term sick when the rule changed. Now, as they miraculously are healed or their training freeze on the whale is up they can bid back to whatever their seniority can hold.

 

[701EV]

Hey Puff your kidding right!

Who runs Comair? DELTA!

Who ran ASA up until two years ago? DELTA!

Who gave MESA a contract? DELTA!

Above and below wing on C and D concourse in ATL? DELTA!

Delta has the dumbest management I ever seen!

If the above and below the wing folks want to work you can turn airplane fast. My record in ATL with a crew swap is 31 mins.


701EV

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[PCL_128]

NWA had 50+(over 60) flying S/O in Anc or on long term sick when the rule changed. Now, as they miraculously are healed or their training freeze on the whale is up they can bid back to whatever their seniority can hold.

Ahhh, I see. That makes sense. I had forgotten about the geezer NWA panel jockeys.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

We have already had eight or nine retire this year already.

Joe you wanted numbers, there you are. Fact is that we have a lot of hiring to do the next 20 years.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

FWIW. I have turned a 757 in 24 min and a 767 in 33. It can be done.

Not on D-Concourse. I'd be happy if I can get parked in 24 minutes over there.

ACL, things on D have gotten really bad as of late. There is a huge difference in the work habits of your crews on T, A and B Concourses. C isn't too bad, but D is absolutely pathetic again...and guess where the majority of our flights are parked right now?