Gojet Class Starts

[Reebo]

Well this thread has been going for several days now. The same few people keep posting the same things over and over. There 700+ pilots at TSA and based on these post (since it's the same people over and over).... only about less than 1% of the TSA pilots even care. The same vocal minority have been posting over and over. Let this one die.


TSA you basically have two options:

1) Let GoJets Fly and go work for them.
or
2) Get rid of your AA feed and fly your CRJ's

Seems simple to me!

I am just sick of listening to the whining...

Can't always have your cake and eat it too!

Well Jack, take some of your own advice. You keep posting the same crap! Once again TSA pilots dont control who TSA flies for! Im sick of all your Eagle propaganda. The courts will decide.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Jackflyer get your head out of your ass. Just because we Trans States pilots don't argue with you on a stupid f***ing message board doesn't mean we don't care about the go jet issue. Over 200 tsa pilots were at a meeting last week in stl about this issue. Out of 700. You do the math. That meeting included the Eagle MEC chairman who was also at our MEC chairmans grievance hearing last year. Quit complaining about us flying Eagle aircraft we can't do anything about it. The only few on this board are you and fuelflow,who most likely is a management tool, who see nothing wrong with gojet. Stop being so bitter.

Haha. You tell 'em.

 

[MINIME]

Well this thread has been going for several days now. The same few people keep posting the same things over and over. There 700+ pilots at TSA and based on these post (since it's the same people over and over).... only about less than 1% of the TSA pilots even care. The same vocal minority have been posting over and over. Let this one die.


TSA you basically have two options:

1) Let GoJets Fly and go work for them.
or
2) Get rid of your AA feed and fly your CRJ's

Seems simple to me!

I am just sick of listening to the whining...

Can't always have your cake and eat it too!

Hey bud, I think you ought to reconsider your stance. Seems to me that your beef right now is with the TSA pilots cause of codeshare mishaps that were created by AA. You, me, TSA guys, and nobody else on this board that is employed as a pilot has any control whatsoever whom our companies do business with. It is in no way our decision to make.

What we try to control, is our compensation and work rules that we negotiate, normally through our respective unions. Encouraging people to go work for a place such as GoJet, undermine our gains in these areas. Not to mention, possibly leave some out on the street through furloughs and spin offs, since wholly owneds appear to be an expensive commodity for managements now at days. If this is allowed to go forward, you can say goodbye to good contracts and a big FAT hello to GoJet and Freedom. Cause they'll be more than happy to bump you aside while they fly that shiny new jet (for 50 bucks an hour) right into your job.

 

[labbats]

I would create more flamebait for entertainment purposes, but it seems all the really good posts were already made for that purpose by guys with 1 post to their names. Too funny.

 

[smokey999]

Well this thread has been going for several days now. The same few people keep posting the same things over and over. There 700+ pilots at TSA and based on these post (since it's the same people over and over).... only about less than 1% of the TSA pilots even care. The same vocal minority have been posting over and over. Let this one die.


TSA you basically have two options:

1) Let GoJets Fly and go work for them.
or
2) Get rid of your AA feed and fly your CRJ's

Seems simple to me!

I am just sick of listening to the whining...

Can't always have your cake and eat it too!

"Seems simple to me!"
This proves your immense lack of understanding of anything related to the airline bussiness. For the record, it seems there are a lot more then a "few" TSA guys represented in this thread, however you seem to be the only Eagle guy spouting misinformed propaganda. Learn the facts, research who makes all financial decisions at airlines, then try to paste your repeated message while keeping a straight face.

 

[JackFlyer]

What we try to control, is our compensation and work rules that we negotiate, normally through our respective unions. Encouraging people to go work for a place such as GoJet, undermine our gains in these areas. Not to mention, possibly leave some out on the street through furloughs and spin offs, since wholly owneds appear to be an expensive commodity for managements now at days. If this is allowed to go forward, you can say goodbye to good contracts and a big FAT hello to GoJet and Freedom. Cause they'll be more than happy to bump you aside while they fly that shiny new jet (for 50 bucks an hour) right into your job.

I guess AWA got undermine by... TSA CHQ and MESA...

They had much better rates and work rules than all you combined.

For the record...I am not a Eagle pilot...I work at Comair. You guys are bringing everyone down. Including me!!

 

[relief tube]

Isn't it just as sad that the TSA pilot group/union has not yet gotten around to preventing this like what the CHQ pilots at least did?

They keep saying one list but have not authorized a strike to prevent it.

Maybee I'm missing something, but how 'bout someone in the know update us on the efforts of the TSA group to fight this. I hope there's been some sort of fight.

 

[medic&cfi]

Relieftube:

Tell us you're not really that ignorant. You're a 121 FO and you have such abismal understanding of the Railway Labor ACT?

You cannot just decide to strike. You need to be in mediated contract negotiations and be released to self help by the NMB, usually after a cooling off period. Otherwise it's an illegal job action. You don't really think that a pilot group can just go on strike whenever they want, do you?

They're working on it. An expidited grievance was filed. For right now that's all we can do.

 

[JackFlyer]

Relieftube:

They're working on it. An expidited grievance was filed. For right now that's all we can do.

I was told that ALPA did not expidite the grievamce. They know they don' t have much of a leg to stand on.

 

[smokey999]

I was told that ALPA did not expidite the grievamce. They know they don' t have much of a leg to stand on.

What you've been told, and what is actual fact are two entire different things. This is no time for the Jr. High rumor mill. I am done taking you seriously.

 

[cunaguaro]

sad sad

well those guys just join the scabs club with members such as lorenzo, ornstein, cooper...stinks
they wont jumpseat on my flights

 

[abcdef]

I was told that ALPA did not expidite the grievance. They know they don' t have much of a leg to stand on.

JackFlyer you are correct. I checked on this one too and found out they didn't want to pay the small fee to expedite. Probably because they know it's a lost cause. Many more GoJets to come.

 

[CEO silly sap]

Fat chance. Anybody got a list together of these scumbags yet?

Its just business, its not personal. Come on guys cant we be friends, heck I will let you pull gear when your airline tanks, and I wont be bitter.


please lets just get along

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Its just business, its not personal.

Is that the best you can come up with? For TSA pilots trying to feed their families it is personal I'm sure. Good luck to all at TSA.

 

[PCL_128]

Its just business, its not personal. Come on guys cant we be friends, heck I will let you pull gear when your airline tanks, and I wont be bitter.

You just better hope the TSA pilots allow you to be stapled to the bottom of their list when they win their grievance. Wouldn't it be a shame if you were just tossed to the street like the trash that you are.

please lets just get along

You'll get along with a lot more people if you stop sticking a knife in their back. Until then, bite me.

 

[Reebo]

JackFlyer you are correct. I checked on this one too and found out they didn't want to pay the small fee to expedite. Probably because they know it's a lost cause. Many more GoJets to come.

Get a clue! what do you know about grievances being filed at TSA? Are you in the MEC? A line pilot? Tell me where you get your info from. Just so you know, the reason for the grievance not being expedited at this time is that ALPA has given the company one more chance to work out a solution to this problem. Duane Woerth, along with the TSA MEC, will meet on May 26th with TSA management to try and reach a settlement. If an agreemnet cannot be reached, then you will see the expedited grievance process go to work.

 

[CEO silly sap]

You just better hope the TSA pilots allow you to be stapled to the bottom of their list when they win their grievance. Wouldn't it be a shame if you were just tossed to the street like the trash that you are.



You'll get along with a lot more people if you stop sticking a knife in their back. Until then, bite me.

Okay thats it no more jumpseats for you mr. Negative RJDC.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Okay thats it no more jumpseats for you mr. Negative RJDC.

From your profile you're obviously an ex-TWA furlough. Why the hell do you want to work for an outfit like GoJets? I just don't understand the thought process of some of you. Surely your experience would be golden for places like NJI, CitationShares, and other quality 91 corporate outfits that pay a hell of a lot better. Or does your backstabbing, bitter, "I've been screwed, so screw everyone else" attitude steer these more quality operations away from hiring you? I just don't get it.

 

[phishn@daves]

From your profile you're obviously an ex-TWA furlough. Why the hell do you want to work for an outfit like GoJets? I just don't understand the thought process of some of you. Surely your experience would be golden for places like NJI, CitationShares, and other quality 91 corporate outfits that pay a hell of a lot better. Or does your backstabbing, bitter, "I've been screwed, so screw everyone else" attitude steer these more quality operations away from hiring you? I just don't get it.

Unless of course you were fired from one of those, then went to TSA, and now GoJet!

 

[210FR8DOG]

I was told that ALPA did not expidite the grievamce. They know they don' t have much of a leg to stand on.

Jacka$$........er flyer. I don't think they can actually expedite any grievance or even file a grievance period until Blowjets has a cert. in place. That's the reason Teamsters backed out of the deal. Blowjets is not an actual company yet. It's just an inevitable scumbag operation to be. As soon as it becomes official though, look out, da fight be on like donkey kong.

Hug my left one.