Gojet Class Starts

[pianoman]

I would never turn down anyone but a real scab.

What a little baby. I'll bet some of those guys have been ALPA for quite a while.

GO ahead and shake your tiny little fist, small man.

Then they should know better than to go work there, as should you. No j/s. ALPA just held a rally for the TSA pilots to try and stop this. That should be enough of an indication for anyone in the industry to avoid that place like the plague.

 

[ex j-41]

As long as the golden spem clubbers are lined up at the door to take the 20000 first year jobs, the rate will not go up. When, and only when the airlines cannot continue to fill the seats because of the poor pay, will you see a change. Again, I'll go buy a lotto ticket instead of waiting for this to happen.

We have all been there. It is because we have no choice. How many
times have you been told that you have to pay your dues. Well this
is what they are talking about. It sucks, but don't blame the newbies
cause they didn't negotiate the wage. ALPA and its MEC's did.
What new hire got to sit in front of HR and negotiate a their pay?

If you want to work in this industry then you have to live under the
rules and regulations set forth by your predecessors.

 

[135 Rocks!]

100LL...Again...

Your right on..... I have seen how ALPA treats the regionals over the years. Experienced it first hand. They can careless about anyone flying at a regional/commuter. Its always as a earlier poster said.. the "I got mine" attitude.

A cohort of mine is starting class there. He is a furloughed and got the blessing from his Union to work there. If there is alot of furloughed 121 guys going there I would be carefull of threating any list.. It could back fire on you for these guys will be back at the Big Show before any TSA guys will, also they have been in this small world business alot longer.

Right on, I'm one of those, and there are fuloughed pilots from several carriers represented in the first 3 classes that I know of personally. So when things turn around, and they will, we will have our own list of those that refused jumpseats.
Make sure that your current job is where you want to stay for your entire career, cuz my big brothers are watching my back now and when you come knocking for a job. You commuters are the last thing they care about.
Sorry, just stating the truth.
GO GoJet!

 

[BlackPilot628]

Right on, I'm one of those, and there are fuloughed pilots from several carriers represented in the first 3 classes that I know of personally. So when things turn around, and they will, we will have our own list of those that refused jumpseats.
Make sure that your current job is where you want to stay for your entire career, cuz my big brothers are watching my back now and when you come knocking for a job. You commuters are the last thing they care about.
Sorry, just stating the truth.
GO GoJet!

135 and Bankangle; Well said.
I'm not saying I totally agree with the Gojets airline, But I have some friends that left Corpex to go over.(About 6 people) They went to Go jets and I went to CHQ. I'm a firm believer in people needing jobs and if they think that's the best or only opportunity at the time, then they should take it. I'm not pretending to have some of the experience that much of you have, as I'm still a young thumper(23); but I don't see where refusing pilot the jumpseat is going to help your cause. They will just not jumpseat on TSA. Do you really think a UAL or America West guy is going to care about this and deny a Gojets pilot the jumpseat. He!! no. Their going to say get on, they don't have time for that. Then what are you going to do, Start dening UAL pilots your jumposeat? See how that works for you. The biggest problem I've seen in the airline industry thus far and post 9-11; is that everyone is against each other. (Everyone being airlines) How come us as pilots can't come together and all do they same thing, most of us tend to have the same views. If we would stick together no management could touch us. That whole southern comfort Piedmont days went out to door. We all need to stick together and do what will be right for us. But, as Bankangle said, Don't burn your bridges, you may be furloughed someday in need of feeding your wife and kids, keeping your mortgage up to date, and the pretty little BMW you drive. Once again, I don't pretend to have been in the industry that long, but I have eyes and ears just as everyone else does.

Good Luck TSA and GOjets guys, I hope you all come to some type of agreement.

 

[airjackson]

135ROCKS, It's a reach to even give you the bother of a reply, since you are more than likely full of $hit and only posting flame bait, but just in case.

Since you obviously have zero experience in airlines, here's a little lesson. Jumpseating is only allowed when a reciprocal jumpseat agreement exists between two carriers. Outside of that, there is no jumpseating. I will go out on a limb here and propose that GOJET will have an extremely hard time negotiating many reciprocal agreements with other carriers. So really, all of this hot air being expended is a waste since the poor GOJET pilot will, in all likelihood, not even get past the gate agent.

As for your veiled threat to "start your own list". Go ahead. And good luck. Seriously, think about your position. You are hopelessly wrong in your understanding of this industry and where the overwhelming sentiment is on the GOJET issue. Ask around. please. It's for your own good.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

There are jobs out there for those that look for them. I have no sympathy for anyone that goes to an airline like GoJet. All this stuff about it being the last resort and being desperate for work is bullshish. I know plenty of furloughed Independence guys that have found work at other reputable regionals. Anyone who takes a job with GoJet is doing so out of personal greed, plain and simple.

 

[FlyFastLiveSlow]

...... doing so out of personal greed, plain and simple.

The American Way (Dream)

 

[Traderd]

There are jobs out there for those that look for them. I have no sympathy for anyone that goes to an airline like GoJet. All this stuff about it being the last resort and being desperate for work is bullshish. I know plenty of furloughed Independence guys that have found work at other reputable regionals. Anyone who takes a job with GoJet is doing so out of personal greed, plain and simple.

If they are able to get a job with a reputable regional airline, how does greed enter into the decision to accept employment with GoJet? Is GoJet paying pilots a better wage than the reputable regionals?

 

[SkyBoy1981]

The American Way (Dream)

Even if it involves screwing fellow pilots. Yeah, real classy.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

If they are able to get a job with a reputable regional airline, how does greed enter into the decision to accept employment with GoJet? Is GoJet paying pilots a better wage than the reputable regionals?

Obviously for a quick upgrade potential on a new 70 seat aircraft.....

 

[Reebo]

Right on, I'm one of those, and there are fuloughed pilots from several carriers represented in the first 3 classes that I know of personally. So when things turn around, and they will, we will have our own list of those that refused jumpseats.
Make sure that your current job is where you want to stay for your entire career, cuz my big brothers are watching my back now and when you come knocking for a job. You commuters are the last thing they care about.
Sorry, just stating the truth.
GO GoJet!

you are so full of s*it. which airlines currently have pilots on furlough? US,NW,UA,DL,AA, and Indy Air. five of the six are represented by ALPA, and your airline was primarily created to bypass the scope of the sixth. where in that equation does big brother come in and watch your back? you are taking jobs away from a ALPA carrier. i hope you enjoy your CAREER at Blow Jets. Blow Jets is based in STL and Trans States is the largest carrier, so dont expect a ride home anytime soon. its real simple NO AGREEMENT, NO RIDE!

 

[limodriver1]

Give them a break!

Isn't definition of Scab different than situation at companys like GOjet , freedom Air. republic airways...

Why don't you guys loosening up!

Yeah, I said it!

There is bigger things to worry than spelling, your ego...

If all the airlines would start charging real price from planetickets, situationslike this would be solved. No more LCC .

If you want to travel cheap take a buss.

 

[Yank McCobb]

Isn't definition of Scab different than happends in GOjet , freedom etc. situation

Why don't loosening up!

Is there anyone out there that can help me with an ENGLISH translation of this?!?

 

[Traderd]

Obviously for a quick upgrade potential on a new 70 seat aircraft.....

Thanks, but if the newhires at GoJet are going to be banned from all other airline flying, won't that translate into stagnation in terms of upgrades from FO to Captain? I assume you mean upgrade to a 70 seat even if they remain an FO.

 

[say again]

Is there anyone out there that can help me with an ENGLISH translation of this?!?

You aren't kidding!!! Any litterate translation will do.