Actually, he was 100% right. He said they would be back to the table, and they were. You would be smart to listen to Occam. The man knows what's going on.
To use a younger generation's term...WORD.

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Actually, he was 100% right. He said they would be back to the table, and they were. You would be smart to listen to Occam. The man knows what's going on.
let me guess: Occam is one of your union "friends with privileges?"
Hey oil is over 107 a barrel!
Scary...
jke406...what exactly is your position in all of this?
You sure do have a lot say. Please enlighten all of us @ NW and DAL.
Do you work for either airline?
I just call it like I see it.
there are plenty of tools at NWA, DAL, ALPA, etc. etc. who could benefit by doing the same thing.
That's kind of ironic. I make 80-100K at ASA am in the top 50% of the list. But from what I'm hearing my QOL and prospects are way better than those of you who got the "dream shot".
And everyone wants to know why we "losers" CHOOSE to stay at a regional.
I respectfully disagree. The Delta team came home.Actually, last time he stated that the rumor that they/we had walked away for good was false. Or the the deal was dead.
Read every word he says. The devil is in the detail.
Management's take:Negotiations ended nearly two weeks ago without a deal, dousing expectations that the airlines would strike a merger agreement.
Richard Anderson's take:SEATTLE (AP) -- Bastian said, "It's not a Plan B, it's a Plan A -- that's our standalone option." Later, Bastian said the company expects solid growth for the year and that the airline has "a great standalone plan."
He said a potential combination would have to protect its employees' seniority; for pilots, that means first dibs on desirable and higher-paying planes, routes and schedules.
And action:"We have not arrived at a potential transaction that meets all of our principles," he said, adding those included keeping the Delta name and Atlanta headquarters, improving international growth prospects as well as protecting employees' seniority, jobs and retirement plans. "We will not complete a transaction unless all of these conditions are met," Anderson concluded.
As I wrote, ALPA National did weigh in once the phone started ringing with other MEC's demanding to know why NWA Reps would hold up a 30%+ pay restoration outside of Section 6 negotiations. It took intervention from National to get DAL to return to the table.Delta Air Lines Inc. disbanded the outside advisers hired to guide a merger with Northwest Airlines Corp. after the carriers' pilots couldn't agree on how to mesh seniority lists, people with knowledge of the matter said.
andSources told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution on Friday that senior members of the Air Line Pilots Association, which represents both pilot groups, have met with representatives from both airlines' locals in an attempt to restart the talks.
Based on this reporting, the NWA pilots wanted the Delta guys back and National stepped in. Neither side sent their entire teams.A group of Northwest Airlines pilots was still holding out hope Thursday that a merger with Atlanta-based Delta Air Lines is possible.
Others are reporting the progress was not as much as was hoped.A person familiar with the matter told Reuters on Wednesday the meetings have involved a handful of senior pilots and are not formal negotiations. It is unclear whether the group has made any progress.
MINNEAPOLIS -- Northwest Airlines CEO Doug Steenland called $105 oil a "serious budget-breaker" on Monday and warned that high fuel costs are a "difficult financial challenge" for the carrier that emerged from bankruptcy just nine months ago.
Steenland said if oil remains above $100 a barrel, "it will cost Northwest $1.7 billion more this year than it planned for. This rapid increase in fuel costs is another reason why we continue to believe that consolidation in the industry is inevitable."
High fuel prices were a major factor in Northwest's and Delta's bankruptcy filings in September 2005.
That leaves a lot to interpretation. Here is the actual report from the Wall Street Journal:Bad rumor.
Informal talks among pilot leaders from Delta Air Lines Inc. and Northwest Airlines Corp. over the past week failed to produce the breakthrough needed for the two airlines to move ahead with their plans for a merger that would create the world's largest airline, said people familiar with the talks.
Here is the actual report from the Wall Street Journal:
What? You mean Occam was right? Who woulda thunk it?!OK, talked to two DALPA reps again today who were in the lounge to answer questions. They said DAL/NWA pilots are talking right now.
Things are very quiet here at NWA, too quiet. The MEC is not tipping its hat on any information from the NWALPA/DALALPA neg.
IMHO, DOH intergration of both seniority lists with a no bump, no flush seems to be a fair way to go.
If not then fences around the equipment be put into place until the most junior pilot on the property retires. Coincidentally, that was what the NWA/Republic merger arbitrated, called affectionately, "The Roberts Award". This ruling finally ended January of 2006.
Personally, I do not want to fly DAL equipment nor bid into any of their bases. All of the NWA pilots that I have talked with agree also feel the same way.
In fact, these pilots all agree that a merger is not wanted, and that NWA is in a very good financial shape right now and a merger with DAL may reverse that positive trend.
An arbitrated ruling on the seniority list intergration certainnally will bring more negatives than positives to the solution for both NWA and DAL.
What? You mean Occam was right? Who woulda thunk it?!![]()