SWAPA has a transition agreement

[UALX727]

Wow....I'm feeling the Luv.

 

[SWA/FO]

Wow....I'm feeling the Luv.

A UAL dude felling the luv? thats new.

 

[Lear70]

You will do it anyway they want as long as it is safe? Well, that is very nice of you. You will do what they tell you and like it. Who are you to decide if it is safe? You already have a reputation so I would just sit back and keep quiet.

I wasn't speaking on policy or questioning their safety (I'm sure they are just as safe as any other airline from a procedural standpoint), I was speaking as a professional aviator in general.

If something's not safe, I don't do it. I would expect every, other, respectable professional pilot to do the same thing. In fact, just about every airline's culture is set up for the pilots to catch unsafe practices and report them. That's how policies get changed.

Just because you don't like me doesn't make this simple fact any less true.

 

[UALX727]

No, just a Ex-UAL now AirTran guy. There's actually quite a few of us furloughed guys here...UAL, TWA, USAir, ATA, Midwest, and about 30 retired Delta guys. I read this stuff and try to stay out of it. There is nothing I can do to control any of it, really. Just a pawn along for the ride.

Had a real nice SWA guy on the jumpseat last week to Vegas. We talked a little about the whole seniority list stuff and he summed it up nicely. He said he had his opinion and we had ours, and really there is no point wasting time worrying about it, because what will be will be essentially. Good advice I thought.

 

[Cometman]

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Just because you don't like me doesn't make this simple fact any less true.

Sorry, but there are a lot of people at your airline and the airline you will be at that doesn't like you. But you already know that.

 

[GuppyWN]

Sure is a nice day out today.

Gup

 

[PapaWoody]

Sorry, but there are a lot of people at your airline and the airline you will be at that doesn't like you. But you already know that.

Dude, personal attacks serve absolutely no purpose, except to make yourself look bad and by association, all SWA guys. As far as I have seen, Lear has been very professional and even friendly during these discussions and I, for one, look forward to working with him. Please rein it in.

PapaWoody

 

[Tripower455]

FWIW 15 years ago the SWA hiring process wasn't difficult or lengthy.

It wasn't? I was hired 15 years ago, and it took 18 months from application to class. Most of the guys I interviewed with didn't make it.

Thanks for playing.

 

[scoreboardII]

I was thinking the same Gup.

 

[Crash Pad]

WTF!!! GUP! and Scoreboard.... I get all my merger information from this board. I then run to the cockpit and say "my good buddy at SWA told me..." Sometimes I say "Let me tell you how this merger is gonna go... then I rattle off something you say... then I say take it to the bank, its a done deal, papers are already signed"

If you guys stop talking I just have to make stuff up. You guys are jerks and I want ten dollars back, five each, for ruining this board of bloviation.

 

[redflyer65]

No, just a Ex-UAL now AirTran guy.

That's gotta hurt.

 

[UALX727]

Yeah, initially it really did. Wouldn't want to go through anything like that again....getting furloughed isn't fun. At the time UAL had the best contract in the industry. However, I am really grateful I had the chance to start over again at AirTran. Never took the recall....if I would have....I'd be on the street again.

 

[waveflyer]

Yeah, initially it really did. Wouldn't want to go through anything like that again....getting furloughed isn't fun. At the time UAL had the best contract in the industry. However, I am really grateful I had the chance to start over again at AirTran. Never took the recall....if I would have....I'd be on the street again.

Timing is everything- a very fickle industry-
Congrats for shaking the scarlet U

 

[SWA/FO]

Yeah, initially it really did. Wouldn't want to go through anything like that again....getting furloughed isn't fun. At the time UAL had the best contract in the industry. However, I am really grateful I had the chance to start over again at AirTran. Never took the recall....if I would have....I'd be on the street again.

No doubt... its been a tough 10 years.

 

[XR650R]

Yeah, initially it really did. Wouldn't want to go through anything like that again....getting furloughed isn't fun. At the time UAL had the best contract in the industry. However, I am really grateful I had the chance to start over again at AirTran. Never took the recall....if I would have....I'd be on the street again.

We look forward to flying with you soon.. Hope the second half of your career if far better than the first.

 

[Music]

Hey XR, do you ride?

 

[UALX727]

Thanks, guys. Looking forward to flying with you all as well. Got some good friends over there, all great guys.

 

[jonjuan]

"FWIW 15 years ago the SWA hiring process wasn't difficult or lengthy."


15 years ago SWA hired 1 in 6 applicants.

Too bad the industry average is 1 in 30.

 

[SWAdude]

Too bad the industry average is 1 in 30.

Are you saying that for every 30 qualified pilot applicants that interview at Airtran, Delta, Pinnacle, Republic, SWA, ASA, Skywest, etc etc that only one in thirty is hired?

 

[StopNTSing]

Too bad the industry average is 1 in 30.

Just curious about your source for that stat? At every single carrier over the last several decades, the odds have ebbed and flowed with the economy and the overall employment picture. In addition, SWA has always had a smaller spread between mins to apply and competitive mins. IOW, 2500TT plus 1000 TPIC plus a 73-type tends to make for a smaller pool of candidates than, say, United's 250TT plus FEX.