SWAPA has a transition agreement

[ivauir]

Just got a tweet from SWAPA they are calling it Side Letter 8.

 

[shagadelic]

The language is on the SWAPA website. This is just the initial side letter and doesn't wave any part of section 1. So far, I like what I see.

 

[Bill Nelson]

Oh snap! Nice.

 

[RJ Bum]

want to enlighten the rest of us?

 

[shagadelic]

A quick synopsis:

• Guarantees all aircraft, orders, options and deliveries come to Southwest Airlines and pilots on the current SWAPA Master Pilot Seniority List.

• Timing and coverage of the SWAPA CBA – when AirTran pilots receive our contractual benefits

• Manner in which any integrated seniority list will be utilized

• Provides a clear and concise definition of Complete Operational Merger which will be the foundation for when items such as the SWAPA CBA can be extended to AirTran pilots

• It reaffirms that separate operations will not exceed twenty-four months without mutual agreement between Southwest Airlines and SWAPA

• The agreement provides SWAPA the opportunity to open Section 6 negotiations six months prior to the September 1, 2012 amendable date specified in the CBA

• Provides Block Hour protections

• Protects our domicile RON aircraft levels

• Provides additional furlough protection above and beyond that specified in our CBA for up to one year after complete operational merger

• Guarantees the inclusion of SWAPA in the Southwest transitional planning process and allows for expedited arbitration for any disputes resultant to the application of this agreement

 

[400ADude]

No waiver of Section 1? I wonder why that is?:erm:

 

[shagadelic]

No waiver of Section 1? I wonder why that is?

Not yet... I would anticipate another side letter later, as the union alluded to. This was the easy low hanging fruit they could agree to while they work on the rest.

 

[400ADude]

Not yet... I would anticipate another side letter later, as the union alluded to. This was the easy low hanging fruit they could agree to while they work on the rest.

I anticipate something else especially with all that is going on in the news.

 

[saabcaptain]

• It reaffirms that separate operations will not exceed twenty-four months without mutual agreement between Southwest Airlines and SWAPA

(READ: but we can agree to make it longer)

• Provides additional furlough protection above and beyond that specified in our CBA for up to one year after complete operational merger

(READ: Any furloughs occur on Airtran side only)

• Guarantees all aircraft, orders, options and deliveries come to Southwest Airlines and pilots on the current SWAPA Master Pilot Seniority List.

(READ: All future Airtran deliveries become SWA planes flown by SWAPA pilots with the exception of 2 717 deliveries this year)

 

[BVT94]

.............

 

[Lear70]

That was quick, good job.

• Guarantees all aircraft, orders, options and deliveries come to Southwest Airlines and pilots on the current SWAPA Master Pilot Seniority List.

(READ: All future Airtran deliveries become SWA planes flown by SWAPA pilots with the exception of 2 717 deliveries this year)

Been expecting and saying that since Day 1, too expensive to reconfigure and repaint for no useful reason.

Will be interesting to see the actual language on the timelines and extension of the SWA CBA to AirTran pilots prior to the actual execution of the SLI. Would be a little shocked to see that happen before the SLI is done and work is well underway to integrate and cross-train...

 

[scoreboardII]

What I'm reading says SWAPA CBA won't apply to Airtran pilots until after single operating certificate is approved by FAA.

 

[scarlet]

20 717s? SWA have APDs? Training Dpt for 717s?

 

[Lear70]

What I'm reading says SWAPA CBA won't apply to Airtran pilots until after single operating certificate is approved by FAA.

Wow... if that's the case, we're talking at least 2+ years down the road.

It will require complete integration of not only both the current 737 AND the 717 training departments onto the SWA certificate (not to mention our APD's approved on the SWA certificate - our 717's and eventual transitioning 737 pilots will require it), but all the international operations and waivers, as well as all the crews cross-trained, not to MENTION the mechanics, flight attendants, etc, etc, etc.

 

[scoreboardII]

Let me clarify, it says single operating carrier, approved by FAA, so, whatever that really means.

 

[scoreboardII]

OK, APD? Anchorage Police Dept? Army publishing directorate?

 

[Lear70]

Aircrew Program Designee - they are company employees in the training department who can give Type Ratings as well as PC's / PT's.

http://fsims.faa.gov/PICDetail.aspx?docId=3379CB6C41F3E7C3862573D0006CB2FE


As for "Single Operating Carrier", in FAA speak, that means "on the day we can surrender the AirTran Operating Certificate and operations with all fleets and employees continues on a daily basis as-normal."

The only way they can do that is to have every, single facet of the operation on the Southwest Ops Cert.

Thanks for the details, Scoreboard. More to come, I'm sure.

 

[RedDogC130]

Interesting stuff

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[Tanker Clown]

Could you SWA guys kick the can down the road for years (maybe even a decade) and prevent the AirTran guys from getting your pay rates? Wow...But I remember a bunch of AirTran guys saying it "wasn't about the money." So I guess it's no big deal then.

 

[GuppyWN]

To my future Tranny bro's - See you "on the other side."

Until then it's time for me to (finally) put a sock in it.

Gup