SWA culture!

[Just thinking]

After "engine cool" illuminates..... about three minutes with N1 < 1.10

 

[madjack]

Ty, his opinion does matter...as does yours, he is just not as insulting about stating it as you are...hopefully common ground can be reached that allows you to feel ok with whatever seat you end up in...

 

[Bob Dylan]

Most trannies would give their firstborn to be stapled to Southwest Airlines. Don't let the vocal minority on here kid ya.

 

[Ty Webb]

...hopefully common ground can be reached that allows you to feel ok with whatever seat you end up in...

I have already made up my mind to accept the final ruling, whatever it may be, for there is no other reasonable choice.

As Mark Twain famously observed:

"Most folks are about as happy as they make their mind up to be".

and

"Happy is he who forgets (ignores?) what cannot be changed".

 

[Ty Webb]

Most trannies would give their firstborn to be stapled to Southwest Airlines. Don't let the vocal minority on here kid ya.

As a Propagandist, Baghdad Bob, you're an abject failure.

Every time you make a post like this, you probably piss off one or two more AAI pilots enough for them to pick up the phone and tell their Reps to "take it to the mat", followed by telling five or six of their coworkers, "Can you believe that those jackasses are calling us "Trannies" and saying we would be happy with a staple?".

Keep it up, you're doing great work, Bobby Boy. :laugh:

 

[kwick]

Wether an arbitrator gives it to you or not, you do not deserve a captain seat at SWA. You know that, Ty. Even three year olds know what fairness is, they just have trouble showing it sometimes.

No one should lose their present position or relative seniority!

That's whats gonna happen if it goes to arbitration . Deal with it.

It's gonna go to arbitration, and yes GK will implement the combined
list. Because , not to do so would risk the future of the company.

And You know that you don't deserve a Southwest Captain's seat
a the expense of a present Captain!

 

[madjack]

Kwick,

so....10 yr saw foa pulling gear for 5 yr aai cp....we will have made the complete transition to a legacy...enjoy, I hope u r wrong...

 

[kwick]

Kwick,

so....10 yr saw foa pulling gear for 5 yr aai cp....we will have made the complete transition to a legacy...enjoy, I hope u r wrong...

I think , Date of Hire, with fences is reasonable, but most of the SW guys , on this board, don't seem to think that is enough,
"Penallty For Being Bought"

 

[SWA/FO]

I feel a rude awaking is on the way. Kwick & Ty will be the most upset trannies out there. Don't be stupid, you think SWA Management will turn their back on their "hired" employees? You think this is ONLY a Pilot issue? How many "one luv" lanyards you see on Southwest employees? That should be a big hint! Don't push it Ty, be smart. Or you might "out smart" yourself out of a great opportunity.

The first time I heard the term Tranny/Trannies it came from one of your Captains, back when you charged for the jumpseat... Wtf was that? Leonard beer money?

"take it to the mat" - trannies have the most to lose. Most of you guys are smart enough to see a great deal, some aren't like Ty.
:cartman:

 

[GuppyWN]

I think , Date of Hire, with fences is reasonable, but most of the SW guys , on this board, don't seem to think that is enough,
"Penallty For Being Bought"

DOH is a LOOOOOONNNGGGGGGG way from the Relative you stated just four posts above this one.

I won't comment on either one of your silly ideas ( ) but you should pick one or the other to run with!

Gup

 

[texman]

Here we all are, happy as can be.

 

[Ty Webb]

I feel a rude awaking is on the way. Kwick & Ty will be the most upset trannies out there.

Tell me, SWAFO-

Have you ever read an arbitrated decision that bumped existing captains out of their seats? For that matter, have you ever read an arbitrated decision, period?

Don't be stupid, you think SWA Management will turn their back on their "hired" employees?

Do you think that maybe you might be seen as turning your back on your own company?

You think this is ONLY a Pilot issue?

Thanks for helping me illustrate my point.

Don't push it Ty, be smart. Or you might "out smart" yourself out of a great opportunity.

Same to you, my friend, same to you. Hope that some greedy FO's don't screw up a reasonable agreement. Your Captains are the ones with te most at risk if it goes to Arbitration.

The first time I heard the term Tranny/Trannies it came from one of your Captains

Yeah, I guess it's OK then to try to use it as a perjorative.

You might want to look that word up in the dictionary. You'll find it between "date of hire" and "relative".

:laugh:

 

[Cometman]

No one should lose their present position or relative seniority!

I am not with either airline but if you really believe that a 5-6 year Captain with Airtran will become a SWA Captain and fly with a SWA co-pilot with 9-10 years and still get all the other benefits you are really dreaming. You might keep your seat for X number of years but then you will lose it if your new seniority cannot hold it. You think US Airways has problems? GK will never allow it at SWA. Remember, you are only 1700 against 6000. Who do you think GK wants to be happy. Besides, only half of the 1700 would be unhappy. GK will have 90% of the pilots happy and only 10% bitching. The way you dream, GK would have 10% happy and 90% unhappy. You decide which way GK wants it to go.

 

[Dash Power]

I am not with either airline but if you really believe that a 5-6 year Captain with Airtran will become a SWA Captain and fly with a SWA co-pilot with 9-10 years and still get all the other benefits you are really dreaming. You might keep your seat for X number of years but then you will lose it if your new seniority cannot hold it. You think US Airways has problems? GK will never allow it at SWA. Remember, you are only 1700 against 6000. Who do you think GK wants to be happy. Besides, only half of the 1700 would be unhappy. GK will have 90% of the pilots happy and only 10% bitching. The way you dream, GK would have 10% happy and 90% unhappy. You decide which way GK wants it to go.

And that is how you do the math with common sense.

Well said.

 

[tankerhead]

OK, refresh me.

What's the math of the pissed-off percentages with pure DOH?

 

[SWA/FO]

Ty you're truly going to be "lucky" if you ever make the list.

You keep forgetting who is drving this thing. You have zero leverage. Zero. You think arbitration is going to hand everything to da trannies? What are you smoking?

 

[Ty Webb]

So, let me get this straight . . .

SWAPA signs the Process Agreement they negotiated "in good faith", then

SWAPA doesn't like the results of the process that they negotiated and agreed to abide by, so

SWAPA goes to Gary Kelly and asks him to "save" them from the results of the agreement they themselves negotiated and signed . . . . or they are going to -what- hold the whole airline hostage . . . . in the name of "saving the culture"? :erm:

Oh, and you want SWA management to ignore existing law, repudiate statements made to shareholders, and reneg on documents signed with AirTran and ATN71, all because you're upset you didn't get to take away an AirTran Captain's seat? :erm:

Some of you guys need to find a new mullah to get your bullet points from. :laugh:

 

[GuppyWN]

I still think we'll negotiate the SLI.

When Gary and Mike VdV and Joe H and every other management type actively involved in this tells you (Airtran) they want this settled instead of arbitrated that's what they mean.

We'll (the NC's) will know a lot more after this next week.

Gup

 

[PRINCE AKEEM]

As a Propagandist, Baghdad Bob, you're an abject failure.

Every time you make a post like this, you probably piss off one or two more AAI pilots enough for them to pick up the phone and tell their Reps to "take it to the mat", followed by telling five or six of their coworkers, "Can you believe that those jackasses are calling us "Trannies" and saying we would be happy with a staple?".

Keep it up, you're doing great work, Bobby Boy. :laugh:

Correction Ty. Around the smoking lounge, YOUR name is the only one continually brought up. Unlike your ego leads you to believe, it's never very pleasant.

 

[Ty Webb]

I agree, Gup.

While we're talking math, simple math says that the Captains at each airline are going to have to vote "yes" in order to get a majority, and I don't know of any AAI Captains that are going to vote themselves out of a seat.