SWA culture!

[dicko]

And before you make the argument that

Never start a sentence with "and". Or a RT transmission ....

 

[dicko]

GL, if Delta was acquiring AAI, and you had AAI posters telling you that they were hoping/expecting for relative seniority in the SLI, then your reaction would not be unlike SWA posters'.

And. History shows they would have handled it much more professionally than you seem to be.

So far .....

 

[texman]

Gen, I want it to be fair too. Nobody on FI can really give a true definition of fair. Yes we swa guys have our opinions and so do AT guy's. You are the guy that likes to root for the under dog, and that is cool. But give it a rest. As far as SLI talks, I have been told they are going great. The AT guys are great, level headed and smart. They have represented AT in a positive light.

So there ya go Gen some positive stuff going on. Fair will be fair. By the way when we do come up with a fair SLI, get ready! We will scratch tooth and nail to take your market share. Not being cocky, just realistic. Its all good.

 

[Flycatcher99]

And. History shows they would have handled it much more professionally than you seem to be.

So far .....

And has history given us a situation in which delta acquired a company like air tran?

But, no. Not that I'm aware of. (dangling preposition!)

 

[Kenney G]

General,


I don't think any SW pilots are worried about arbitration at all. Gary won't let this sink 40 years of progress and profits. No cockiness, just the facts. Sorry they don't line up with your Spin.

RF

What exactly does that mean? Would certain arbitrated rulings cause SWA to sink 40 years of progress and profits?

 

[redflyer65]

What exactly does that mean? Would certain arbitrated rulings cause SWA to sink 40 years of progress and profits?

It means what it says..you never know what comes out the other end of the arbitration grinder, even with the huge stack of gains on the AAI side to be had.

So yes, a bad SLI (list) for the SW pilots would probably end in the list never being utilized by Gary. The facts are the facts, if people want to throw their head in the sand, then so be it.

I still think this thing will be negotiated, but you never know..

For Airtran, they can negotiate all the other items along with the SLI now, or let it go to arbitration and then let SWAPA figure out the rest of the integration/contract items.

 

[Music]

So yes, a bad SLI (list) for the SW pilots would probably end in the list never being utilized by Gary.

So Red, let's cut through the BS and summarize what you're inferring:

If a negotiated SLI is not reached, and it goes to Arbitration the only result that will be acceptable is one where the AirTran pilots are stapled (or nearly stapled). If the Arbitration results in anything other than that, SWAPA will litigate the BINDING Arbitration result, ala USAPA, FAPA, and tie the implementation in the courts. This will FORCE Gary into furloughing all of the AirTran pilots, thus creating a slew of upgrade opportunities for SWA FOs.

Is that what you really mean to say?

 

[redflyer65]

I'll be frank, the position that the AAI MC find themselves is a tough one.

SWAPA won't have to 'litigate' the binding arbitration at all(ie, USAPA). Gary Kelly is the one that either will or will not use the list. This is Gary's purchase and he has to let this play out to the best abilities of both SWAPA and AAI ALPA. We are all hoping for a negotiated outcome so we can all move forward. If this goes to arbitration, then all bets are off...exactly as the AAI MC is finding out via there email to the pilot group.

I didn't set this up this way, but if you don't believe it could be an option, you've been living in a cave. I hope that NO ONE gets furloughed from any of this.

Upgrading at Southwest is not the be all, end all for me. It could be for others, everyone has their perspective on what's important.

And just to be clear, there has been absolutely no talk of anyone being furloughed from either side.

 

[Tripower455]

Man, the troll comes on here and throws a few grenades, and you guys fall on them. Every time.

Why are you guys giving ANY credence to what a wanna be has to say about something that doesn't involve him in any way?

 

[Empennage]

We are all hoping for a negotiated outcome so we can all move forward.

Red, I cannot speak for you, but I think this is the point you are trying to make.

Either way it is the bottom line. Everything else becomes speculation.