SWA culture!

[dicko]

Your MC wouldn't bring you a deal that good for at least 75% of you?

Maybe this is going to be harder than I thought!

Gup

I don't know Gup. I'm speaking as one of the disenfranchised 75% in your 'master plan'.

I would think that they have been given some guidelines that include protecting, to some degree, seats and seniority.

I cant speak for them. I'm just line swine.

 

[Ty Webb]

Your MC wouldn't bring you a deal that good for at least 75% of you?

Maybe this is going to be harder than I thought!

Gup

That's not a good deal for anyone at AAI. :erm:

And, everything you do to me, you do to 1,300 guys below me. . . .

 

[dicko]

Gup,

You're talking about 650 Captains losing their seat. An arbiter has never done that to the best of my knowledge.

 

[ivauir]

Those are YOUR posts, ya ******************************bag. :laugh:

And the parts where you quoted me were from early October, 2010. . . . . Got that big ol' honkin' watch and still don't know what year it is.

Ty,

Why would a quote from October 2010 be irrelevant? The fact is that you have, repeatedly, discussed your SLI expectations. You can try to play the victim, but don't expect anyone to buy it.

The internet has no eraser.

 

[Lear70]

Your MC wouldn't bring you a deal that good for at least 75% of you?

Maybe this is going to be harder than I thought!

Gup

The merger commitee's promise to the pilot group was that each segment of the agreement would stand on its own merit (meaning no "sacrifice seniority for money" arguments) and that no one demographic would be sacrificed for another.

So yes, it's no easy task. I still think they can do it, but it won't be easy.

 

[jball2]

What cracks me up is the negotiations are apparently apparently going amicably and word from SWAPA is they are closing the gaps. On here, the gap is getting wider. The best part is the amount of misunderstanding about the process coming from both sides. Some of you really need to take a break or a while.

 

[ivauir]

So, let me get this straight . . .

SWAPA signs the Process Agreement they negotiated "in good faith", then

SWAPA doesn't like the results of the process that they negotiated and agreed to abide by, so

SWAPA goes to Gary Kelly and asks him to "save" them from the results of the agreement they themselves negotiated and signed . . . . or they are going to -what- hold the whole airline hostage . . . . in the name of "saving the culture"? :erm:

Oh, and you want SWA management to ignore existing law, repudiate statements made to shareholders, and reneg on documents signed with AirTran and ATN71, all because you're upset you didn't get to take away an AirTran Captain's seat? :erm:

Some of you guys need to find a new mullah to get your bullet points from. :laugh:

I suggest you re read the process agreement. You seem to think it guarantees things that it does not.

Peace.

 

[tankerhead]

I do not work for SWA. I started posting on these threads mainly after seeing Lear70s hypocrisy when his old threads begging to be stapled were discovered and then especially when he banned me for bringing them up. Secondly, I like posting in these threads because I think Ty Webb is such an a-clown and will be thrilled to see you stapled.

Probably my biggest reason for posting is to see TyWebb get what's coming to him. It will be a joy to see you slapped down a peg. So if you really want to talk about propaganda, your bad attitude has almost single-handedly turned me, a non SWA and non AT pilot with nothing to gain or lose, into rooting for Southwest Airlines to staple your butts.

I also truly believe a staple is the fairest thing and what will ultimately happen based on logic.

Bobby, have you been drinking? That's the most we've heard from you in quite a while, if not ever! So this is just a personal vendetta for you against someone's (Lear's and Ty's) internet personality. That's pathetic if true. Even more pathetic than pretending to not be a childish corn-dog.

 

[Ty Webb]

Ty,

Why would a quote from October 2010 be irrelevant?

Re-read what I wrote- I said I hadn't mentioned my SLI expectations since 2010, when our respective MC/NC's asked us not to.

That's why it is irrelevant.

Sheesh. :erm:

 

[Bob Dylan]

Bobby, have you been drinking? That's the most we've heard from you in quite a while, if not ever! So this is just a personal vendetta for you against someone's (Lear's and Ty's) internet personality. That's pathetic if true. Even more pathetic than pretending to not be a childish corn-dog.

Whatever dipstick. Couldn't give two squats what you think.

I personally believe that a staple is the fairest integration. I follow these threads because of your two trannie loudmouths, Ty and Lear.

 

[SWA/FO]

While we're talking math, simple math says that the Captains at each airline are going to have to vote "yes" in order to get a majority, and I don't know of any AAI Captains that are going to vote themselves out of a seat.

They would rather vote themselves out of a job? Big EGO Ty.... a $5000 a month raise isn't enough for you? WTF Rally the troops Ty, try to convice your fellow aviators you want to "rock Gary's World"...... bye bye, would be my guess.

So what is it Ty, a while back you said the FOs at Southwest are going to ruin it, vote it down. Now you think our Captains will vote it down? I know your Coworkers, your fellow "Crew Members" would disagree with your line of thinking. Welcome to the "Island of Ty" - out there in the middle of NOWHERE.

I put you up there with our own "donut boy" my "other forum" bros understand.

:cartman:

 

[SWA/FO]

:bawling:"don't take away my Captain seat, its all I have!!" :bawling:

...but you're getting a huge raise at a better Company....

":bawling: but everybody knows I'm a Captain, what do I tell them now!" :bawling:

Ty W:bawling:bb
"part-time aviator - FULL time cry-baby" :bawling:

 

[Ty Webb]

SWA/FO, you IVUAIR and Bobby must be drinking at the same bar, because none of you seems able to read today.

I said the Captains at SWA would have an incentive to vote yes, because to vote "no" would open them up to the uncertainties of arbitration.

I also said I was unwilling to sell my seniority, which is permanent, for $$ which is temporary.

The rest of the stuff is just your DT's kicking in, I guess. :laugh:

 

[ASADFW7]

This stuff is getting old. Look for things to heat up this month, expect slightly surprised and mostly confused from the AAI pilots, to expressly pissed. Good luck fellas.

 

[Bob Dylan]

You trannies that like to pretend that you're getting screwed if stapled also crack me up. Especially how you conveniently leave out the fact that you're getting MASSIVE raises.

I guess you won't be happy unless you get massive raises AND steal Southwest captain seats.

Greed!

 

[Ty Webb]

Don't make me bring Milton back.

I do not work for SWA. I started posting on these threads mainly after seeing Lear70s hypocrisy when his old threads begging to be stapled were discovered and then especially when he banned me for bringing them up..

Your first post on the subject was on 10/5, just 7 days after the merger was announced, a long time before anyone started necroposting anything or you were banned.

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=136314&page=2

Better work a little harder at keeping your story straight, little mister.. . . .

 

[Ty Webb]

This stuff is getting old. Look for things to heat up this month, expect slightly surprised and mostly confused from the AAI pilots, to expressly pissed. Good luck fellas.

Could be the opposite team headed to the woodshed. Guess we'll see soon enough.

Have a great weekend. Don't burn your wieners.

TW:beer:

 

[Flycatcher99]

Re-read what I wrote- I said I hadn't mentioned my SLI expectations since 2010, when our respective MC/NC's asked us not to.

That's why it is irrelevant.

Sheesh. :erm:

Ty, you contradict yourself almost daily. What do you think it is to tell everyone here that you expect to keep "your" captain seat? That is exactly mentioning your SLI expectations. Oh, and by the way, it is also inferring that you expect something close to relative, since the only way you can keep "your" cappy seat, outside of a fence, is by something far more favorable to AAI than a DOH merge.

And I said it before, I'll say it again, since you couldn't answer my earlier post; you keep quoting the Process Agreement, but you don't have to read far into the agreement to see that there is absolutely no certainty to an arbitrated ISL being implemented.

Could be the opposite team headed to the woodshed. Guess we'll see soon enough.

Doubtful, as it's our Dad that owns the woodshed. Besides, it's not a good analogy. This isn't about punishments, and GK and every self-respecting SWA employee wants this to go well for all concerned. But as some others have posted here, GK and MVdV have made it clear that they are not going to allow something to transpire that worsens the situation for 6000 pilots here. The AAI guys will see life improve, no matter what. The powers-that-be here will make sure that the same is evident for the pilots that were already here.

 

[Ty Webb]

Ty, you contradict yourself almost daily. What do you think it is to tell everyone here that you expect to keep "your" captain seat?

I'm not sure stating that " . . .there has never been an arbitrated agreement between two non-bankrupt airlines that bumped Captains out of the seat they had held for the past 7 years" is an expectation, more like a statement of fact. . . . If this one turns out differently, you can do the happy dance.

you keep quoting the Process Agreement, but you don't have to read far into the agreement to see that there is absolutely no certainty to an arbitrated ISL being implemented.

I didn't have to respond to this, others did. Since you missed it-

The Arbitrator sets the implementation date. If the company doesn't want to combine operations, they have 18 months from DOCC to do something else. I don't see them doing that just to keep you from having to abide by the agreement you signed.

Which brings me to the more important point- the rest of the Company employees. This merger is happening, and operations will be combined, because it is the best thing to do, for the Company, for ALL employees, and shareholders . . . . . not just the pilots.

 

[Lear70]

Your first post on the subject was on 10/5, just 7 days after the merger was announced, a long time before anyone started necroposting anything or you were banned.

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=136314&page=2

Better work a little harder at keeping your story straight, little mister.. . . .

I wish people would quit quoting the idiot; there's a reason he's on my ignore list with only two other people. Even the other SWA pilots are getting tired of listening to his constant drivel.

I enjoy the calm, rational, non-threatening discourse from those who offer it. Even if the two sides don't agree on much, at least it lets us know WHY the other side feels the way they do about their position, and that in and of itself is helpful. I like understanding other people's arguments and positions and look forward to whatever our MC's/NC's work out, trucking on down the road, and building an even larger Southwest that kicks even more butt!

What cracks me up is the negotiations are apparently apparently going amicably and word from SWAPA is they are closing the gaps. On here, the gap is getting wider. The best part is the amount of misunderstanding about the process coming from both sides. Some of you really need to take a break or a while.

I'm hearing the same thing from our MC. I still believe they're going to come to a negotiated settlement and soon.