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So yes, a bad SLI (list) for the SW pilots would probably end in the list never being utilized by Gary. .



Red,

I think this is a fantasy based on your interpretation of "harm".

Do you really think that your Management will interpret the gain or loss of a few percentage points of seniority to be "harm".

I think you'll be asked to soldier on and look to the future.
 
Dicko,

I agree with you...a few precentage points either way, let's rock on.

A bad arbitrated SLI from the SWAPA side of the house? I'm not so sure Gary is gonna look the other way. There's been plenty of behind the scenes input from management, so they are very update on what we've discussed and where we both are.

Empennage,

If you elect not to look past the negotiated option, then that's cool. I would venture to say the AAI MC might talk a little more about it than they have already in their recent email.

I hope we can have something done in the next 30 days or so. First round on Lear and Ty, just kidding!

RF
 
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And just to be clear, there has been absolutely no talk of anyone being furloughed from either side.

And what exactly should we infer from all of the "Gary's not gonna let this happen" rhetoric?

Look, I hope this is done without Arbitration too, but this 'threatening' rhetoric has got to stop. What do you or anyone else spewing it hope to do anyway? Frighten AirTran pilots into calling our union reps and demanding that we settle or else? Permanently yield the fact that you are better than us? All of the above? Or is it that you just 'get off' on threatening others?

I really am trying to figure out the reasonability behind these tactics. Or maybe it's that new behavior science disorder, "Aggressive/Passive".
 
How 'bout we let the unions and SWA work this out. Until we have something to vote on we're just along for the ride.

Gup
 
And what exactly should we infer from all of the "Gary's not gonna let this happen" rhetoric?

Infer whatever you want, or not. Gup is right in the fact that we're all along for the ride and Gary is at the helm. Gonna be interesting to see how it all plays out. See you guys on the other side.

Cheers
 
Dicko,

I agree with you...a few precentage points either way, let's rock on.




No worries. At least we have a better idea now about what you'd consider to be "bad". I'll admit that wasn't what I thought, you thought. If that makes any sense.

That is the problem with an arbitrated SLI. It could go very badly for either group. I hope that a panel of three will force them to leave the Ether at home.

We'll see what happens on 7 July. Apparently SWA management are attending the meeting. Perhaps a miracle ?

It's nice to know that there is now management in charge that is fully capable of pulling this off.
 
Well stated buddy.

Just a week away. Will be interesting to see what transpires.

Have a good holiday weekend guys.

RF
 
Infer whatever you want, or not. Gup is right in the fact that we're all along for the ride and Gary is at the helm. Gonna be interesting to see how it all plays out. See you guys on the other side.

Cheers
Well you'll think I am bashing here ( I'm not). But it seems to me it's not just up to "Gary" either. There are legal issues and stockholder issues that trump what any pilot thinks. The bottom line is if SWA wants to have a hub in ATL they will have to merge the two airlines. If the AirTran pilots got something forced on them that was not considered fair, SWA would have a USAir situation on their hand.
Seems pretty simple to me, is that bashing?
 
Happened again today on Houston center around 1 - 130 pm. Stuck mic, talking about how when "the south was settled everyone was so independent and now everyone is looking for handouts." When ATC changed the next plane's freq, this same voice acknowledged the freq change and it was a SWA crew. After hearing the other SWA pilot's rant, it was weird to be hearing another one live.
 

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