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PRINCE AKEEM
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KF is going to AirTran (not Kevin Federline)! The Pace gents should be down here today, so i'll get the scoop. I think that they received calls to expect 'the call' shortly.
"As The Prop Turns," it looks like we might get called back into flying next week. It will be interesting to see how this turns out. Is there any ramp personnel left in STL? Good luck all, have a good weekend...Akeem
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Who is KF. PM me please. I know that TF, HK, BB, and BS are going to FL, or have already gone.
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It was very important that I speak with you today...
My dear friends at Corpex:
It was very important that I get a message to you today as I will not be able to get to the cockroach party. So important that I have come back from the future! Yes, I have seen the future-at least tomorrow and that looks pretty good!
For those of you that have jobs lined up, congratulations! You have met the highest standards of an ex-crapexer-you made like a laxative and got your sh!t out of there!
It is the rest of you that I wish to address...
Being furloughed isn't really all that bad. Yeah, the pay sucks, but where else can you get paid to drink all day long??? There is no shame in taking government cheese-you were doing that flying jballs-now you have just cut out the middlemen and women. Just like corpex, you won't be getting a raise. The real bonus is that there will be no more oh-dark-stupid wakeup calls after 5 hours of exhausted sleep from flying ten legs in an unpressurized golf ball!
Cheers!!!
I liked to start my furlough day with coffee...fortified with burbon-you may have another choice-it's not mission critical. let's see, coffee, burbon, oh yeah-then off to play video games for a couple of hours.
About 1030 local you will probably be a little buzzed. Time to eat and switch drinks. Beer goes really well with grilled cheese sandwiches. Sometimes after a light lunch of two or three sandwhiches and 4 or 5 beers you will get bored with Desert Storm or Battlefront II and might find some old Star Trek episodes on the tele...
Now here is the thing that I wish to warn you about.
Caution!!! If you have a significant other there are three things you must do.
1) Try not to get too fracked up before they get home.
2) Do the dishes...they will appreciate your hard work. For extra credit scatter a few updated resumes around and some phone numbers and names scribbled on a piece of paper...
3) Remember to get dressed.
These are really quite simple things and will keep you sharp for your next flying job. It will also make your life simpler-because if your other half comes home from work, finds the dirty dishes in the sink and you passed out on the couch in your underwear half buried in empty beer cans with Star Trek playing on the tele at concert volume I can almost assure you that he/she will be highly pissed!
Good Luck All!
PS if CH is back the investor must be GLA...
My dear friends at Corpex:
It was very important that I get a message to you today as I will not be able to get to the cockroach party. So important that I have come back from the future! Yes, I have seen the future-at least tomorrow and that looks pretty good!
For those of you that have jobs lined up, congratulations! You have met the highest standards of an ex-crapexer-you made like a laxative and got your sh!t out of there!
It is the rest of you that I wish to address...
Being furloughed isn't really all that bad. Yeah, the pay sucks, but where else can you get paid to drink all day long??? There is no shame in taking government cheese-you were doing that flying jballs-now you have just cut out the middlemen and women. Just like corpex, you won't be getting a raise. The real bonus is that there will be no more oh-dark-stupid wakeup calls after 5 hours of exhausted sleep from flying ten legs in an unpressurized golf ball!
Cheers!!!
I liked to start my furlough day with coffee...fortified with burbon-you may have another choice-it's not mission critical. let's see, coffee, burbon, oh yeah-then off to play video games for a couple of hours.
About 1030 local you will probably be a little buzzed. Time to eat and switch drinks. Beer goes really well with grilled cheese sandwiches. Sometimes after a light lunch of two or three sandwhiches and 4 or 5 beers you will get bored with Desert Storm or Battlefront II and might find some old Star Trek episodes on the tele...
Now here is the thing that I wish to warn you about.
Caution!!! If you have a significant other there are three things you must do.
1) Try not to get too fracked up before they get home.
2) Do the dishes...they will appreciate your hard work. For extra credit scatter a few updated resumes around and some phone numbers and names scribbled on a piece of paper...
3) Remember to get dressed.
These are really quite simple things and will keep you sharp for your next flying job. It will also make your life simpler-because if your other half comes home from work, finds the dirty dishes in the sink and you passed out on the couch in your underwear half buried in empty beer cans with Star Trek playing on the tele at concert volume I can almost assure you that he/she will be highly pissed!
Good Luck All!
PS if CH is back the investor must be GLA...
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Yeh, I guess that's the plan..
But here is my question:
Then what?
From what I have heard is that we are going to fly the stuff we've been flying, until Great Lakes is up to speed and can take over..
Then what happens? We are "supposed to be working on cities.." but what if?
This place, I think it's sunk..
But here is my question:
Then what?
From what I have heard is that we are going to fly the stuff we've been flying, until Great Lakes is up to speed and can take over..
Then what happens? We are "supposed to be working on cities.." but what if?
This place, I think it's sunk..
From what I am hearing, Regions will be doing the flying for Great Lakes out of STL? Anyone else hear this?
That’s what I am hearing, just long enough for Great Lakes to hire and train their own guys to take over the cities they won. Here’s something some of you “new” guys might find kind of ironic.
Years and years ago, when Corpex was started by Chuck Howell and his brother, the airline flew on its own and was losing money big time. Things didn’t look very promising UNTIL Midway airlines decided to get rid of their commuter connection and replace them with Corporate Airlines.
The airline they dumped then? Great Lakes.
Oh yeah, and they flew our “new” routes until we trained enough of our own guys. This is what I was told by our former HR manager, because it was before my time. This industry is amazing, isn’t it? Maybe Chuck will offer positions to our guys if there’s no other flying for Corpex. I hear they’re working on a backup plan though so maybe it’ll work out after all. For the sake of the employees I hope so.
That’s what I am hearing, just long enough for Great Lakes to hire and train their own guys to take over the cities they won. Here’s something some of you “new” guys might find kind of ironic.
Years and years ago, when Corpex was started by Chuck Howell and his brother, the airline flew on its own and was losing money big time. Things didn’t look very promising UNTIL Midway airlines decided to get rid of their commuter connection and replace them with Corporate Airlines.
The airline they dumped then? Great Lakes.
Oh yeah, and they flew our “new” routes until we trained enough of our own guys. This is what I was told by our former HR manager, because it was before my time. This industry is amazing, isn’t it? Maybe Chuck will offer positions to our guys if there’s no other flying for Corpex. I hear they’re working on a backup plan though so maybe it’ll work out after all. For the sake of the employees I hope so.
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Crew sked is operating?
That's kind of funny...I was dog tired the other day but stopped myself-I was dialing the wrong 800 number!
That's how long I was there...ya know, I couldn't tell you the 800 number for corpex, but if I'm just running on habit my fingers know which numbers to dial...
I really hope that somehow things can work out for you guys and gals. Yeah, working out best would be getting a call from the last people you interviewed with for a class date.
Yet there is something sad about the place going away. There are in fact people from Corpex all over the world at any given point in time. It was a stepping stone and sometimes the first step was a really big one. SWA, NWA, Air Tran, Delta, Midway (it seemed like a good choice at the time, I know)CHQ, SkyWest, Fractionals, Pace, UPS, Fedex, Polar, World (and I don't know who all I missed)...hell, a RJ is a big step, let alone 72's, 73's 74's, DC-8's, DC-9's DC-10's and MD-11's!
I would hope that somehow given the dymamics of the industry at this point in time that GLA would have problems finding people (given the number of RJ outfits hiring that's not unreasonable) and that any corpexers left would end up with some kind of blend into the seniority list...something besides a staple to the bottom anyway!
As sad as it is, you have all now seen how bad it can be-or at least close to it. My real hope is that you can find some of the good that is left in this industry. For all the sacrifices that so many people made for so long it was not upon them to find a paradigm that worked in the post 911 world-that was up to management. In a nearly six year period only one regional has failed-ACA-while all the others flourished. It may be that Regions Air is about to join them...from the opposite reason that ACA failed. A complete lack of ambition at HQ rather than too much.
That's sad...
That's kind of funny...I was dog tired the other day but stopped myself-I was dialing the wrong 800 number!
That's how long I was there...ya know, I couldn't tell you the 800 number for corpex, but if I'm just running on habit my fingers know which numbers to dial...
I really hope that somehow things can work out for you guys and gals. Yeah, working out best would be getting a call from the last people you interviewed with for a class date.
Yet there is something sad about the place going away. There are in fact people from Corpex all over the world at any given point in time. It was a stepping stone and sometimes the first step was a really big one. SWA, NWA, Air Tran, Delta, Midway (it seemed like a good choice at the time, I know)CHQ, SkyWest, Fractionals, Pace, UPS, Fedex, Polar, World (and I don't know who all I missed)...hell, a RJ is a big step, let alone 72's, 73's 74's, DC-8's, DC-9's DC-10's and MD-11's!
I would hope that somehow given the dymamics of the industry at this point in time that GLA would have problems finding people (given the number of RJ outfits hiring that's not unreasonable) and that any corpexers left would end up with some kind of blend into the seniority list...something besides a staple to the bottom anyway!
As sad as it is, you have all now seen how bad it can be-or at least close to it. My real hope is that you can find some of the good that is left in this industry. For all the sacrifices that so many people made for so long it was not upon them to find a paradigm that worked in the post 911 world-that was up to management. In a nearly six year period only one regional has failed-ACA-while all the others flourished. It may be that Regions Air is about to join them...from the opposite reason that ACA failed. A complete lack of ambition at HQ rather than too much.
That's sad...
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You know...it's a sad thing when everyone speaks of airlines like Great Lakes and Corpex and how they were run and operated many years ago (10-ish or so) and you look at them today, and they haven't changed one bit.
Well actually some things did change. Corporate/RegionsAir went from a 2 airline code-share airline (Midway Airlines & TWA/American) and at one point a pilot workforce of almost 200 pilots to just a 1 code-share, or maybe even a no code-share airline, and has now only ~50 pilots left (not sure, maybe even fewer).
Great Lakes on the other hand has gone the opposite way - they now have a code-share with two airlines (United & Frontier) and last time I heard more than 200 pilots.
In a nearly six year period only one regional has failed-ACA-while all the others flourished. It may be that Regions Air is about to join them...from the opposite reason that ACA failed. A complete lack of ambition at HQ rather than too much.
Wow, that’s a pretty somber and unfortunately accurate summary…
Hopefully, the guys/gals leaving Regions will be able to help other Regexers follow their footsteps...It seems like lots of them have been getting hired lately, lets hope this will continue.
Can anyone shed a light on how other workgroups are dealing with the temporary shutdown? The dispatchers, mechanics, gate agents, etc? Are they finding other jobs? Or are they hanging on waiting for things to improve?
Well actually some things did change. Corporate/RegionsAir went from a 2 airline code-share airline (Midway Airlines & TWA/American) and at one point a pilot workforce of almost 200 pilots to just a 1 code-share, or maybe even a no code-share airline, and has now only ~50 pilots left (not sure, maybe even fewer).
Great Lakes on the other hand has gone the opposite way - they now have a code-share with two airlines (United & Frontier) and last time I heard more than 200 pilots.
In a nearly six year period only one regional has failed-ACA-while all the others flourished. It may be that Regions Air is about to join them...from the opposite reason that ACA failed. A complete lack of ambition at HQ rather than too much.
Wow, that’s a pretty somber and unfortunately accurate summary…
Hopefully, the guys/gals leaving Regions will be able to help other Regexers follow their footsteps...It seems like lots of them have been getting hired lately, lets hope this will continue.
Can anyone shed a light on how other workgroups are dealing with the temporary shutdown? The dispatchers, mechanics, gate agents, etc? Are they finding other jobs? Or are they hanging on waiting for things to improve?
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The last published seniority list given to the pilots was at all time high of 38 on the roster. However, this wasn't completely accurate. There were a few people on there who's names were highlighted because of their class dates at AirTran, and another for Trans States. In addition, there were several FO's still on the list...some have already accepted jobs, others have anywhere from 1-3 interviews elsewhere. This list also merged the Saab pilots with the Jetstream pilots. I'm curious to see what an ACTUAL list was to look like. Sadly, its far less than 38!
Good thing they want a reduced schedule in April. It doesn't seem there are enough pilots for anything else...
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Let's see, the new DO is the DO somewhere else.
I smell takeover...or at least there is some bond between the new DO nad the company from the past. And while GLA is not free of issues from what I have heard they have been getting their longevity increases!
Sounds like pretty much a turn key operation. My hopes remain the best for those people that do not yet have a class date-that they get one sooner than later-but if you don't there may yet be hope...
I smell takeover...or at least there is some bond between the new DO nad the company from the past. And while GLA is not free of issues from what I have heard they have been getting their longevity increases!
Sounds like pretty much a turn key operation. My hopes remain the best for those people that do not yet have a class date-that they get one sooner than later-but if you don't there may yet be hope...
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Regions is going to have at least one lawsuit from the parksersburg airport (about $43k outstanding) and maybe a lawsuit from a paintshop (+$30k outstanding) and probably owes more money to the other airports. How does Regions pay these off if they don't have any flying for the time being?
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CH is only "signed on" until September, appearantly..
Then we go out of business all over again..
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CH is only "signed on" until September, appearantly..
Then we go out of business all over again..
As a consultant as I understand- and to help GL with the transition to doing the Regions Air flying out of STL...airline managements don't get this cozy with each other-unless one has a proverbial knife to the other's throat.
I don't know if you remember all the warm fuzzies that AA put out over the purchase of TWA...just ask any of the ex TW FA's how well that went!
Something is up...GLA is teamsters too, might want to get your dues paid!
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That's my feeling. Great Lakes is looking out for Great Lakes, not to imply there is anything wrong with that.
Who owns RegionsAir?
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