Regions Air????

[CopilotDoug]

You know...it's a sad thing when everyone speaks of airlines like Great Lakes and Corpex and how they were run and operated many years ago (10-ish or so) and you look at them today, and they haven't changed one bit.

 

[Tram]

jetpig call crew scheduling...

 

[belchfire]

Crew sked is operating?

That's kind of funny...I was dog tired the other day but stopped myself-I was dialing the wrong 800 number!

That's how long I was there...ya know, I couldn't tell you the 800 number for corpex, but if I'm just running on habit my fingers know which numbers to dial...

I really hope that somehow things can work out for you guys and gals. Yeah, working out best would be getting a call from the last people you interviewed with for a class date.

Yet there is something sad about the place going away. There are in fact people from Corpex all over the world at any given point in time. It was a stepping stone and sometimes the first step was a really big one. SWA, NWA, Air Tran, Delta, Midway (it seemed like a good choice at the time, I know)CHQ, SkyWest, Fractionals, Pace, UPS, Fedex, Polar, World (and I don't know who all I missed)...hell, a RJ is a big step, let alone 72's, 73's 74's, DC-8's, DC-9's DC-10's and MD-11's!

I would hope that somehow given the dymamics of the industry at this point in time that GLA would have problems finding people (given the number of RJ outfits hiring that's not unreasonable) and that any corpexers left would end up with some kind of blend into the seniority list...something besides a staple to the bottom anyway!

As sad as it is, you have all now seen how bad it can be-or at least close to it. My real hope is that you can find some of the good that is left in this industry. For all the sacrifices that so many people made for so long it was not upon them to find a paradigm that worked in the post 911 world-that was up to management. In a nearly six year period only one regional has failed-ACA-while all the others flourished. It may be that Regions Air is about to join them...from the opposite reason that ACA failed. A complete lack of ambition at HQ rather than too much.

That's sad...

 

[AV80R]

You know...it's a sad thing when everyone speaks of airlines like Great Lakes and Corpex and how they were run and operated many years ago (10-ish or so) and you look at them today, and they haven't changed one bit.

Well actually some things did change. Corporate/RegionsAir went from a 2 airline code-share airline (Midway Airlines & TWA/American) and at one point a pilot workforce of almost 200 pilots to just a 1 code-share, or maybe even a no code-share airline, and has now only ~50 pilots left (not sure, maybe even fewer).
Great Lakes on the other hand has gone the opposite way - they now have a code-share with two airlines (United & Frontier) and last time I heard more than 200 pilots.

In a nearly six year period only one regional has failed-ACA-while all the others flourished. It may be that Regions Air is about to join them...from the opposite reason that ACA failed. A complete lack of ambition at HQ rather than too much.

Wow, that’s a pretty somber and unfortunately accurate summary…

Hopefully, the guys/gals leaving Regions will be able to help other Regexers follow their footsteps...It seems like lots of them have been getting hired lately, lets hope this will continue.

Can anyone shed a light on how other workgroups are dealing with the temporary shutdown? The dispatchers, mechanics, gate agents, etc? Are they finding other jobs? Or are they hanging on waiting for things to improve?

 

[CopilotDoug]

they haven't changed one bit.

Yeah, that was a pretty broad statement. Let me re-phrase it...no new equipment, no real advancements in pay or working conditions (assuming so with great lakes)

 

[CAPT. NEW YORK]

has now only ~50 pilots left (not sure, maybe even fewer).

The last published seniority list given to the pilots was at all time high of 38 on the roster. However, this wasn't completely accurate. There were a few people on there who's names were highlighted because of their class dates at AirTran, and another for Trans States. In addition, there were several FO's still on the list...some have already accepted jobs, others have anywhere from 1-3 interviews elsewhere. This list also merged the Saab pilots with the Jetstream pilots. I'm curious to see what an ACTUAL list was to look like. Sadly, its far less than 38!

Good thing they want a reduced schedule in April. It doesn't seem there are enough pilots for anything else...

 

[belchfire]

Let's see, the new DO is the DO somewhere else.

I smell takeover...or at least there is some bond between the new DO nad the company from the past. And while GLA is not free of issues from what I have heard they have been getting their longevity increases!

Sounds like pretty much a turn key operation. My hopes remain the best for those people that do not yet have a class date-that they get one sooner than later-but if you don't there may yet be hope...

 

[Berkut]

Is the old Senior DO gone now? How about the CEO?

 

[CopilotDoug]

I smell takeover...

Regions is going to have at least one lawsuit from the parksersburg airport (about $43k outstanding) and maybe a lawsuit from a paintshop (+$30k outstanding) and probably owes more money to the other airports. How does Regions pay these off if they don't have any flying for the time being?

 

[Tram]

Sounds like pretty much a turn key operation. My hopes remain the best for those people that do not yet have a class date-that they get one sooner than later-but if you don't there may yet be hope...

CH is only "signed on" until September, appearantly..

Then we go out of business all over again..

 

[belchfire]

CH is only "signed on" until September, appearantly..

Then we go out of business all over again..

As a consultant as I understand- and to help GL with the transition to doing the Regions Air flying out of STL...airline managements don't get this cozy with each other-unless one has a proverbial knife to the other's throat.

I don't know if you remember all the warm fuzzies that AA put out over the purchase of TWA...just ask any of the ex TW FA's how well that went!

Something is up...GLA is teamsters too, might want to get your dues paid!

 

[Tram]

Not sure I'm going to be here long enough to worry about what happens..

I just don't see anything positive coming out of this... Who knows with DC out of the way, it might be positive.. Haven't made up my mind yet though..

 

[Berkut]

So what's the deal? Is DC gone? How about FB and BR?

 

[belchfire]

I think that there are many who's days are numbered-one way or another.

A problem with this industry is that there are so many of the same people that keep popping up in the upper half of management, while the working stiffs that they screwed have to start over again at the bottom!

 

[CopilotDoug]

airline managements don't get this cozy with each other-unless one has a proverbial knife to the other's throat.

That's my feeling. Great Lakes is looking out for Great Lakes, not to imply there is anything wrong with that.

Who owns RegionsAir?