How many got hired and quit at Pinnacolaba in the past week?

[jynxyjericho]

Work ethic? For christ's sake, these guys are on trips that the company will not let them off of.

Not everyone can sit and update their group's facebook page all day:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Colgan-ALPA/119395344745881
http://www.facebook.com/notes/mesaba-airlines-alpa/sli-update-june-1-2011/186937454688369

Don't blame the company for problems that were months in the making while you had paid time off. Jeesh.

Honestly, what else are we suppose to do while we wait for you guys to finish up? I know YOU guys don't have time to update your facebook but we are done, we did our job. We've got nothing BUT time.

 

[Flyer1015]

I just had a thought.....on the 9E SLI Merger Committee. They are dragging their feet on completing the new updated list, why? I am not sure anyone knows. But my thought is this, maybe they were hiding columns in their seniority list, changing DOH for a few pilots, and making up a DOH that is not their DOH (class date) all so they can have material for why they will contest Bloch's decision in court by saying the new list is fraudulent. By that time 9E will claim that their merger committee acted alone and all their pilots should not be subject to the new list......blaw blaw..... can anyone else figure out why these guys have been doing this crap?

These are outright LIES. The company has forced one of our three merger committee members to fly a 2-day trip. This individual will not be available until 1030pm tonight, June 2. It's not JH, but another committee member. All 3 of our SLI members have to review the list before hitting the send button to Bloch. Once this individual comes in from his trip, the list will be reviewed. The goal is to get the list submitted to Bloch around midnight, hopefully sooner, maybe a little after. The company is obligated to give the time off needed for SLI as per the process agreement, and obviously, that's not the case. There isn't much one can do when you are forced to fly even though you should be off as per agreement.

 

[xjhawk]

I was speculating about some of the things....but the DOH stuff is not lies. There is a difference between lies and speculation. I must say that it is crappy of the company to make one of your SLI guys work a two day when important matters are at hand. I guess we will know something tomorrow. Thanks for the information

 

[MACH-TUCK]

CFO Perter Hunt is quitting

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/cfo-peter-hunt-leaving-pinnacle-airlines-corp-123023648.html

Well, it looks like Mr. Hunt is leaving, I think this is just the tip of the iceberg as far as upper management. Hopefully, the next one to go is Mr. Shockey!!

 

[Smarta$$]

Again, nothing but name calling from the 9E guys. What's up with this?

Very pertinent contribution to the subject being discussed. The gentlemen was speaking poorly of individuals, that he does not know, that I do know. He is totally incorrect in his assumptions of both.

I summarized my impression of his attitude and actions into a well recognized descriptive term. Your disappointment with the term I chose does not change its validity or appropriateness to the situation.

 

[Flyer1015]

Again, nothing but name calling from the 9E guys. What's up with this?

I should ask you the same thing. The Pinnacle's ex-MEC, current MEC, and members of the SLI team are being called out by name from XJ guys here. What's up with this?

 

[100-1/2]

God I miss Rick Astley!

How can you just not feel all cheerie after being punked
yet again with that get-up?

100-1/2

 

[bri5150]

Very pertinent contribution to the subject being discussed. The gentlemen was speaking poorly of individuals, that he does not know, that I do know. He is totally incorrect in his assumptions of both.

I summarized my impression of his attitude and actions into a well recognized descriptive term. Your disappointment with the term I chose does not change its validity or appropriateness to the situation.

*clap clap clap* Now that is a respectable post. Why not do that all the time instead of calling people names? You may find people value your opinion more.

 

[bri5150]

I should ask you the same thing. The Pinnacle's ex-MEC, current MEC, and members of the SLI team are being called out by name from XJ guys here. What's up with this?

Calling people by their real names is a bit different than calling them a name. That being said, I don't personally know their names, nor do I care what their real names are. What I care about is how poorly handled this updated seniority list is being handled. Whether it's the negotiating commitee, the company, or the MEC. Mesaba and Colgan got there stuff in almost immediately, yet it is taking Pinnacle 3 or 4 days to do the same work. Don't say anything about Mesaba MEC disputing this because there is no question that isn't the case THIS week.

 

[DoinTime]

Mesaba and Colgan got there stuff in almost immediately, yet it is taking Pinnacle 3 or 4 days to do the same work.

Bloch requested updated seniority lists effective as of June 1. The Pinnacle committee pulled the data from the company at the close of business on June 1 and has taken the past 24 hours to ensure its accuracy with exhausting detail. How is that unreasonable? Considering the crap that was dished out to PCL from XJ and CJC pilots the last time there were a handful of inadvertent errors (that were promptly corrected) can you blame them for wanting to make sure this one was correct?

If I were a XJ or CJC pilot I would be very concerned about their committees' disregard of the arbitrators explicit instructions and the submission of their lists that were dated on some other day. I'm confident that the PCL committee won't dispute this lack of adherence to arbitrator instructions though.

Don't say anything about Mesaba MEC disputing this because there is no question that isn't the case THIS week.

Last week's XJ/CJC dispute was shot down by Bloch. If having a decision 24 hours faster was such a big deal maybe they should have rethought that hair brained stunt last week.

 

[altimaklr]

How can XJ pilots have any respect for themselves when their MEC does a last minute stab-in-the-back to Pinnacle by asking for DOE based on their sim? This goes against everything fair and the spirit of the LOA's upto this point. It's really pathetic and I don't care how long it takes anymore, I don't want to work with XJ pilots anyway. Much less fly a prop at colgan.

 

[CptMurf]

How can 9E pilots have any respect for themselves when their MEC does a 9 month stab-in-the-back to XJ/9L by trying to staple them? This goes against everything fair and the spirit of the ALPA Merger policy upto this point. It's really pathetic and I don't care how long it takes anymore, I don't want to work with 9E pilots anyway. Much less fly a POS 200.

Fixed it for you.



Actually just playing around. I'm looking forward to moving past this and becoming a cohesive group. Hopefully it comes out today.

 

[jamiestrat]

If having a decision 24 hours faster was such a big deal maybe they should have rethought that hair brained stunt last week.

This is rich coming from the pilot group that picketed during the last days of contract negotiations threatening to derail the process, then massacring the Colgan and Mesaba pilot groups for not joining them....

 

[jynxyjericho]

This is rich coming from the pilot group that picketed during the last days of contract negotiations threatening to derail the process, then massacring the Colgan and Mesaba pilot groups for not joining them....

"In Unity" right?

 

[xjhawk]

Cpt Murf- holy crap that was funny. I was thinking the same thing how wrong that guy was in his/her entire thought process. Drinking the 9E union coolaid. Everytime I read one of these peoples post I try to think of the countless 9E people I know and who have met while working these past 8 years. Where are they and who is representing them in this goat screw their union is showing us? I am MORE than disappointed by the final staple job proposal that 9E put forth to Bloch. I also want to address what was said earlier on this thread.....how do they know Bloch "shot down" the dispute on the DOH for 9E? Won't that be decided in the final award?