Flexjet, pilots...

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

"The first class of 4 was already full before the Gulfstream announcement. " TWA. Someone is pulling someone's leg. Either your source is telling you a LIE or my buddy that is waiting for the LR45 has been lied to. Can't have it both ways.

Sorry your buddy was lied to, but I had a list of 4 pilots who were coming here before the Gulfsteeam announcement.

And based on you guys "threats", no you can't get those names.

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

Let me make this clear. I never said nor intended for these pilots to be call scabs. So, get this on record JM. These pilots are NOT scabs.

Stop trying to twist my words. It won't work.

On the other hand, you raised the topic and name calling. Are you insinuating these guys are scabs? When you see them, how will they feel that you made reference to them as scabs. Nice.

By the way, the definition for a scab is much more encompassing to some the just related to strikes. For example:

Employee who (1) continues to work during strike action at the place of work, (2) accepts work where strike action is going on, (3) takes work in a non-union shop or (4) under non-union conditions where a union is trying to organize a unit. Also called black leg.

Again, slowing losing it there. Getting worst by the day. There's a reason over 90% of the pilots in the industry are unionized.

Hey, did you say goodbye to DW and thank her for her service yet?

Absolutely not. You are the one saying this action will follow them in their careers.

I was very suprised with the fact that over 25% of your pilots expressed interest in coming to FJ.

Now you guys are making them very aware of how you feel about their actions. They really sound like threats to me. Exactly what are your plans if we do merge and you end up flying with one of these pilots.

I will be involved in the training of most of these pilots and am looking forward to meeting them.

When I came to FJ all I really had wa 121 experience. There was a steep learning curve for me. The FO pilots coming here have already been doing the same job just in different aircraft and for a dirrerent company. I feel they will do a great job at FJ.

Posted on a different thread by one of your "brothers".

From THE US MASTER PILOT SCABLIST: THE UNIONIST'S EDITION

A SCAB is A Person Who is Doing What You'd be Doing if You Weren't on Strike.

[So by definition, the Boot-Lickers going to FJ are NOT scabs! But they sure exhibit Scab-like behavior & traits! Who else would advance their own career on the backs of a furloughed brother or sister!]

A SCAB takes your job, a Job he could not get under normal circumstances. He can only advance himself by taking advantage of labor disputes and walking over the backs of workers trying to maintain decent wages and working conditions. He helps management to destroy his and your profession, often ending up under conditions he/she wouldn't even have scabbed for. No matter. A SCAB doesn't think long term, nor does he think of anything other then himself. His smile shows fangs that drip with your blood, for he willingly destroys families, lives, careers, opportunities and professions at the drop of a hat. He takes from a striker what he knows he could never earn by his own merit: a decent Job. He steals that which others earned at the bargaining table through blood, sweat and tears, and throws it away in an instant - ruining lives, jobs and careers.

ONCE A SCAB, ALWAYS A SCAB - NEVER FORGET!

 

[slowtation capt]

I was very suprised with the fact that over 25% of your pilots expressed interest in coming to FJ.

Maybe you need to check with your source because of that 25% of pilots, maybe 10% actually want to go to Flex. The other 15% only emailed or called for more information about it. Because there were many holes and if's involved in the email that was sent out. And if anybody even emailed or called and asked a question about it, whether or not they specifically said that they were interested in GOING, not interested in information, they were put on the list and subsequently called to offer them a position. Many people that I spoke to, where surprised when they received a call offering a LR45 right seat. They told you guy that all they did was ask for more informaion, I never said that I was interesting in going, why are you calling me. He tells them because we made a list of any name that emailed, called, or spoke to anybody about anything to do with this offer.

See pilots, well the majority of pilots like to gather as much information as possible, sometimes it might be something that you really don't have much interest in doing in your career, but when something is put out with huge holes, and what if's in it, you are going to find out more about it, and open your eyes to what the reality of the offer might be, whether it's good or bad.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

TWA. Why would I threaten any of my friends? And I do know 3 of the pilots going in the first round. I just hope they aren't making a mistake.

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

TWA. Why would I threaten any of my friends? And I do know 3 of the pilots going in the first round. I just hope they aren't making a mistake.

I don't think I responded to you.

This was meant for TA and LS since LS stated these fellow brothers are scabs and TA stated the same thing without using the word.

 

[Ludicrous Speed]

^ TWA - actually what I wrote some months ago was: As I wrote yesterday, those pilots moving to Flex aren't scabs. But they sure exhibit some scab-like tendencies & traits.

 

[DirtyBeech]

I think they see the growth at FJ and want to be part of that.

Maybe when you see them out flying th line later this year you can ask them.

I ran into one last week, but he was trying to wrap his head around our scheduling. I'm not sure we really clarified things, but we tried.

Maybe growth is driving them. I just don't understand why an order for planes three years from now, and we all know that's an eternity in the fractional world for aircraft orders, is the impetus to make things happen. It's gonna take a long while to work through our FO's to see an upgrade.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

TWA "Not sure what you are talking about. You must be getting more bad information." Thanks TWA. Getting bad info is nothing new at this place.

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

My friends in Dallas have told me that 4 did show up at Flex. So I stand corrected saying it was only 3. Good luck to JW,SM,TW, and GY.

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

My friends in Dallas have told me that 4 did show up at Flex. So I stand corrected saying it was only 3. Good luck to JW,SM,TW, and GY.

Yup, you were wrong.

Make sure we get those names out so the architect can make sure they are "never treated the same way again" and we can add them to the "scab-like" list.