Flexjet, pilots...

[The Architect]

Not the Pilots

I think this is a cruel joke the he and the options pilots are playing on us to get a laugh.

KR - Yes
Flight Options Pilots - No

But, some would like to direct the blame that way. Huh, TWA?

 

[shanes123]

The uniform is a disgrace to the Industry as a whole. Nothing funny about it. I think I speak for majority of FO pilots when I say sorry FJ guys. Hope we all don't end up in that Clown Suit

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

Broke Back was a movie
Montana is a state.
The state is common reference to the movie.
I was not commenting on any sexual preferences.
You put that label on them.

I'm just following your lead, this is your MO on how to goat and rope.

Using the word "gay" is completely different and is considered derogatory to homesexuals.

I don't want to discredit you because you don't believe in my views of the Union. I want to discredit you because I believe you to be a worthless price of sh@t.

i have several openly homosexual friends who use the term gay to describe themselves all the time, so no it is not considered a derogatory term as far as I am aware.

I understand you are doing damage control because you were called out, but just admit what you said was inappropriate and move on.

 

[slowtation capt]

However, without the IBT, KR will determine how it's done. And how's that working for Flexjet pilots now. The most junior pilots (after CW) are all making more than pilots senior to them. Oh, ya...KR will be fair about it. You know, "Management by Trust."

KR is all ready deciding their seniority list. Senior options guys being junior at Flex making more than majority of flex. Flex do calling options x guys and seeing if they will come fly a x at Flex. Options guys calling other option guys and seeing what they would fly at Flex, and the flex do calling them with an offer for that position.

 

[slowtation capt]

i have several openly homosexual friends who use the term gay to describe themselves all the time, so no it is not considered a derogatory term as far as I am aware.

I understand you are doing damage control because you were called out, but just admit what you said was inappropriate and move on.

Damage control. I don't think so.
I didn't say anything about any sexual preference of anyone particularly, so as far as being called out, dream on.
Everyone has their other names that people use to reference them. You should know, because apparently you are having a good all time using Shanes name that people refer to him while you should be working and being professional while training the options guys. I

 

[EngineThunder]

And the Capt got promoted to Ground instructor

That is sound logic. They are using "those that can do, those that can't teach" theory.

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

KR is all ready deciding their seniority list. Senior options guys being junior at Flex making more than majority of flex. Flex do calling options x guys and seeing if they will come fly a x at Flex. Options guys calling other option guys and seeing what they would fly at Flex, and the flex do calling them with an offer for that position.

Really, and what positions have been offered to FO guys?

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

My friend is going to Flex and has been told to just hang out in the 45 until the 350 slots open up. TWA/Capt. Queeg is my friend being lied to? You claim to hold all of the answers, so I would like to hear the truth from you. If they lie to my friend again, he will volunteer to be the union organizing cheerleader at Flex.

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

My friend is going to Flex and has been told to just hang out in the 45 until the 350 slots open up. TWA/Capt. Queeg is my friend being lied to? You claim to hold all of the answers, so I would like to hear the truth from you. If they lie to my friend again, he will volunteer to be the union organizing cheerleader at Flex.

Fear grenade, duck.

When was he lied to by FJ before?

 

[shanes123]

There is No FJ..Seriously haven't figured that out yet? or just in denial?

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

Fear grenade, duck.

When was he lied to by FJ before?

It's not a fear grenade, its a promise. FJ has not lied to him before, but your boss (KR) has mislead him before. Now lets hear what you have to say now Capt. Queeg.

 

[shanes123]

Reality Grenade, duck

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

It's not a fear grenade, its a promise. FJ has not lied to him before, but your boss (KR) has mislead him before. Now lets hear what you have to say now Capt. Queeg.

Was he promised a spot on the 350 or a PIC spot?

 

[SDCFI]

My friend is going to Flex and has been told to just hang out in the 45 until the 350 slots open up. TWA/Capt. Queeg is my friend being lied to? You claim to hold all of the answers, so I would like to hear the truth from you. If they lie to my friend again, he will volunteer to be the union organizing cheerleader at Flex.

Who is telling him this? KR? Does he have a direct line to da man? Our DO is telling us there is a group of FO pilots that want to come over to a dedicated crewed 350. However the assignments on the 350 will be based on the seniority of the "manager" of the team, so unless they are picked by a senior FJ pilot they will be at the bottom of the list. It's theoretically possible that if they can't get enough FJ pilots to take a dedicated 350 spot those FO guys could move right into one. But seeing as it will have to pay on par with a regular CL position there are more than enough FOs here that would gladly take the raise.

I asked in another thread and never got an answer: why do a lot of you on here continually tell us how all management does is lie to us, and then expect us to believe that what they tell you is the truth?

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

Regionally based 350's with dedicated crews. A "manager", an assistant, and 3 captains. They get paid a salary plus profit sharing.

 

[slowtation capt]

Our DO is telling us there is a group of FO pilots that want to come over to a dedicated crewed 350. However the assignments on the 350 will be based on the seniority of the "manager" of the team

Regionally based 350's with dedicated crews. A "manager", an assistant, and 3 captains. They get paid a salary plus profit sharing.

How do you guys not see this as an attack on your seniority system? You guys are going to let them walk all over your seniority. Why even both having a list?

 

[doh]

What do you mean "you guys"? Even the training captains, at least in the 300, made it clear they think this is a horrible idea. It is an attack on the fundamental way we do business.

 

[hammer2]

What do you mean "you guys"? Even the training captains, at least in the 300, made it clear they think this is a horrible idea. It is an attack on the fundamental way we do business.

It's a means of splitting all of us up.

 

[shanes123]

WOW There are guys that really don't get that this Stomps all over your seniority list. This is going back to FO year 2000. Didn't matter if you were #1 or #500 they would hire some buddy off the street put him in left seat while 300 qualified SICs sat by and watched. But hey they had a seniority number. It just didn't mean ********************!!! cant believe KR would even be pulling this crap this early. Maybe the guy wants a union??? its baffling

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

OK another question that might seen behind the curve but, is the 300 and the 350 the same type rating?