Annoying things your CA/FO does, 2011 version

[gonz0066]

Farting and letting the other guy/girl know before you do it. At least i try to tell them so they are ready

 

[n2flying83]

crews that turn off the packs on a 100 deg day when you are standing at the bottom of the stairs waiting to swap with them...wtf

 

[asa rat]

200 is the limitation, if you can't wait till a few knots under to ask for flaps at least make sure you are not a few knots over when you call 8 or 20.

If you are doing a space shuttle approach you probably don't need to add power when the flaps come in.

 

[LongBeachTrijet]

I get annoyed when the other pilot assumes that you're of his political and/or religious persuasion and their attempt at a conversation reflects this assumption. i.e. Don't automatically start bashing a political figure thinking that I agree.

IMHO, unless you know each other well enough, political and religious discussions in the cockpit are inappropriate.

 

[mesaserf]

I don't know why it bothers me so much but I hate it when the other person does not offer to share the paper he/she got free from the hotel. Instead of just putting it up on the glare shield as an unspoken offering I end up dumpster diving in the trash bag hoping no coffee got on it. What a tool.

 

[Clutch]

I get annoyed when the other pilot assumes that you're of his political and/or religious persuasion and their attempt at a conversation reflects this assumption. i.e. Don't automatically start bashing a political figure thinking that I agree.

IMHO, unless you know each other well enough, political and religious discussions in the cockpit are inappropriate.

Liberal

 

[LongBeachTrijet]

Liberal

Sorry pal, nothing in my post indicated one way or the other. My, you're presumptuous. Typical _____ wing.




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[wmuflyguy]

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[Coool Hand Luke]

It always irritated me when someone would turn the autopilot off descending out of 10,000' because it increased my work load, but I never understood the thinking of taking away the FD too and trying to be super pilot. Sure some people can do a respectable job flying that way, but I have yet to see one be able to do it and look out the window, not to mention the close calls with heading and altitudes.

I do this all the time. What's so hard about it? You can't imagine how easy it is to turn to 090, or 180 or 270 or 360 (or even 10 deg on either side) without ever looking at your HSI, heading bug, or flight director...just follow the roads...plus as a bonus, with my eyes outside I get to look for traffic all the while turning to a cardinal heading (did I mention that I can do all of these things will chewing gum? It's really an amazing sight to see).

 

[minitour]

200 is the limitation, if you can't wait till a few knots under to ask for flaps at least make sure you are not a few knots over when you call 8 or 20.

THAAAAAAANK YOU!

I can think of at least a dozen limitations (literally...and yes I know what "literally" means) the former HMFIC used to get pissy with me about. It's a limitation. Just follow it.

-mini

 

[Jackie Moon]

200 is the limitation, if you can't wait till a few knots under to ask for flaps at least make sure you are not a few knots over when you call 8 or 20.

If you are doing a space shuttle approach you probably don't need to add power when the flaps come in.

Yes 200 is now a limitation but it used to be 215 and even that was company mandated. They told us in new hire training that bombardier set it at 230 which is why the high speed cue is still set there.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Wasn't it an AD that Bombardier put out that made it 200 due to the high number of flap failures?

I am sure the FOQA people have the trigger set to record flap overspeeds. I think asa rat is eluding to the fact that the airplane won't fall out of the sky as soon as you hit 199 KIAS and flaps up.

Along similar lines, is the N1 setting given during climb and cruise a ballpark number? If it says 90.0, is 90.1 OK, or are you exceeding a limitation now?

 

[asayankee]

Don't hit speed mode at 250kts with a 20 kt decelerating trend vector.... the resulting 6000fpm descent and 20 degree pitch down is not appreciated by me, the FA, or anybody else in the back.

 

[Clutch]

Boy, flying an RJ is so tough.

 

[taters]

Anybody else get a bit agitated by day 4 when the other guy won't stop saying "at (insert his last job) we did it this way" followed by "and it was so much better". It took all the way to day 4 for curiosity to wear off and frustration to set in.

There are always some of those in a indoc class...for every thing they learn they have to respond by saying "we did it this way in the Hawker"....who give a $hit...

 

[asa rat]

Wasn't it an AD that Bombardier put out that made it 200 due to the high number of flap failures?

I am sure the FOQA people have the trigger set to record flap overspeeds. I think asa rat is eluding to the fact that the airplane won't fall out of the sky as soon as you hit 199 KIAS and flaps up.

Exactly

 

[asa rat]

Yes 200 is now a limitation but it used to be 215 and even that was company mandated. They told us in new hire training that bombardier set it at 230 which is why the high speed cue is still set there.

The linkage is a flexible shaft design. Surely they did not flex much when new, but over time... hence the source of kicking out a flaps fail - too much twist on the drive end and not enough on the outer end.
We still get failures at 200 and on the ramp... I'll take 190 or 195 to add a little insurance I won't create a problem in the air.

700s and 900s have a solid shaft.

 

[Clutch]

The linkage is a flexible shaft design. Surely they did not flex much when new, but over time... hence the source of kicking out a flaps fail - too much twist on the drive end and not enough on the outer end.
We still get failures at 200 and on the ramp... I'll take 190 or 195 to add a little insurance I won't create a problem in the air.

700s and 900s have a solid shaft.

You're a hero.

 

[GuinessGuy]

All of you gen Xrs just want to make meuke:

Do you really mean that.........considering gen Xrs are now in their mid to late thirties...........

I,m assuming you mean Generation Me..........spiky hair, backpacks, reading the release at the gate with their iPod buds on, and pissed off at the world if they are not a captain on an RJ by their 23 rd bday,.......oh yeah, and swa, jb, fedex, ups, delta, etc owe them a cockpit seat.........

 

[waka]

You're a hero.

You're a troll and a twit.