AAI to SWA Training Schedule

[DCitrus9]

If I haven't started training, then I am an airtran CA, and should be paid as a CA. The swa badge means nothing.
Typical swapa; screw airtran guys again while pay protecting the swa fo who doesn't deserve the CA rate.

 

[PCL_128]

Uh no, u r a SWA FO until u go thru SWA upgrade...

Are you actually a 13 year old girl, or do you just type like one?

 

[PCL_128]

Typical swapa; screw airtran guys again while pay protecting the swa fo who doesn't deserve the CA rate.

To be fair, SWAPA hasn't said anything yet. Just a few dooshbags on FI. Now if SWAPA does actually refuse to fight that, then I'd say it would be a pretty good reason to lawyer up. That would be a pretty large legal class losing thousands of dollars each.

 

[redflyer65]

If I haven't been awarded an FO downgrade class then I'm still a capt. PERIOD! The day the award becomes effective then that may be open for debate. The common sense solution in my opinion would be the day you start class as an FO then you would snap back to those rates. I hope our union and swapa are positioning themselves as united on this.

RV

SW badge provided 12/28. You'll be 'awarded' SW FO on Jan 1st, with a training TBD.

Problem solved.

 

[Daddy]

If I haven't started training, then I am an airtran CA, and should be paid as a CA. The swa badge means nothing.
Typical swapa; screw airtran guys again while pay protecting the swa fo who doesn't deserve the CA rate.

I think you need to face the unpleasant reality that swapa is a very weak union and has minuscule power in not only your destiny, but any pilot's. You give them WAY too much credit. SWA will do what it wants no matter what swapa or AT ALPA say.

 

[HowardBorden]

Honestly, SWAPA needs to fight for the highest pay rate and best interpretation for ALL our members. On 12/28/14 we are all SWAPA members and it is the unions duty to fight for the highest pay rate they are able to negotiate for all members awaiting training. Nothing else is acceptable.

 

[twepilot]

I wish I could have said it in that manner Howard. Spot on.

RV

 

[twepilot]

here's a question...Are the AirTran FO's who wait as long as possible to go over, say after Jan 1st, going to be paid at AirTran rates or swa rates?

RV

 

[redflyer65]

SW rates because there will be no AirTran contract at the point.

 

[twepilot]

SW badge provided 12/28. You'll be 'awarded' SW FO on Jan 1st, with a training TBD.

Problem solved.

I can't be awarded something that I haven't bid for or won't bid for...If my airplane flies off into the sunset or is used by DL as a money making tool, then I am considered displaced.
RV

 

[Tripower455]

I think you need to face the unpleasant reality that swapa is a very weak union and has minuscule power in not only your destiny, but any pilot's. You give them WAY too much credit. SWA will do what it wants no matter what swapa or AT ALPA say.

Yup.....

I'm amazed that more folks can't or won't accept this reality.

 

[twepilot]

Check crew messages for a terrible, tragic announcement.

RV

 

[FIREMAN]

Check crew messages for a terrible, tragic announcement.

RV

Did he go to ERAU? Went to school with a guy that would get upset if you called a sofa a couch.

RIP brother

 

[FlyinGuy]

I can't be awarded something that I haven't bid for or won't bid for...If my airplane flies off into the sunset or is used by DL as a money making tool, then I am considered displaced.
RV

Sure you can. There have been times that I forgot to bid and I got a crappy line that I did not bid for. I have also received vacation weeks that I did not bid for. If SWA creates January 15 vacancy that includes XXX 737 TBD FO slots, then you will be an FO. I am not saying that I agree with this, but if I was in your shoes I would work out a budget using SWA FO rates through April '15. I would budget on 85 TFP/mo and use the rate that equates to your longevity. If a miracle happens and you get capt pay...great, but I would not plan on it.

 

[27 driver]

Check crew messages for a terrible, tragic announcement.

RV

Holy crap man. That is truly sad. It puts things into perspective. How quickly and unexpectedly this can happen. RIP bro.