10/250

[NJAowner]

GF is correct. But the big issues with most unions is making sure the union leadership understands and represents the interests of the union members --not just leadership.

 

[Newkem]

This doe snot mean settle for little -- but just don't think you are totally irreplaceable.

Say what?

Oh, same goes for an owner. No owner is irreplaceable - there will be others.

:beer:

 

[jonjuan]

We aren't 91.

We aren't airline.

We're NetJets.

No pilots to hire and pilots leaving... not good.

Of course you're netjets, however, many of your pilots come from the regionals. There could be hiring announced tomorrow and thousands of qualified regional pilots, many of whom wont be hired by the major airlines or don't desire to work there, would line up to apply. Heck, most would still do so if the pay were 75% of what it currently is.
Unfortunately, management understands this. It's called leverage.

 

[OPECJet]

Say what?

Oh, same goes for an owner. No owner is irreplaceable - there will be others.

:beer:

That might be the most ignorant statement I've ever read on Flightinfo....

Of course you're netjets, however, many of your pilots come from the regionals. There could be hiring announced tomorrow and thousands of qualified regional pilots, many of whom wont be hired by the major airlines or don't desire to work there, would line up to apply. Heck, most would still do so if the pay were 75% of what it currently is.
Unfortunately, management understands this. It's called leverage.

Long recall list to go through first. You're right that the list will be long to get in the door at first. Problem is it costs a lot of money if you don't keep those pilots on the property for X number of years. Bigger problem is crappy places to work get outed fairly quick in this industry. Notice the thread about Lakes canceling flights due to staffing? We're all drawing from the same pool now.

 

[NJAowner]

Say what?

Oh, same goes for an owner. No owner is irreplaceable - there will be others.

We are all replaceable -- owners too. However, NJ has had its "sign out" for "hiring" new owners and the line is not very long.

 

[gret]

Say what?

Oh, same goes for an owner. No owner is irreplaceable - there will be others.

We are all replaceable -- owners too. However, NJ has had its "sign out" for "hiring" new owners and the line is not very long.

Spot on....

OPECJET...agree with your assessment 100%. Do people understand why the fleet shrunk so drastically...its call lack of clients!

It will take years of tremendous effort to get back to the ownership levels of years ago...

 

[jetlag7]

What I don't like about this thread is there is no reason to negotiate with message board people ... let the union reps negotiate with the company reps. If you don't like the product they present ... vote no.

No kidding right??? Surprising how long it's been going.......

 

[BentOver]

This whole thread is pretty comical








With all this talk you'd think the fleet was at 600 a/c and not 400( down 100+) and then there's the talk about being short on pilots and qualified applicants while 450+ sit on the sidelines.... Business is better than 2010, but I have serious concerns about some of your information sources if you think it's back to 2007 levels.

 

[X-rated]

Say what?

Oh, same goes for an owner. No owner is irreplaceable - there will be others.

:beer:

Please tell me Newkem doesn't work for NJA?

 

[Blueridgeflyer]

I'm having a difficult time understanding the pessimism in the amount of gains that NJASAP members could realize in this bargaining season. The operational profits of today and the net profits associated with an increased owner base will easily support north of $200 million in augmented compensation. It would also be consistent with Netjets Six Core Operating Principles. We at Netjets like to think of ourselves as pioneers in our corner of aviation. Those in other aviation venues should be reaching for the Pom Poms to cheer us along on the mission. Certainly other pilot groups will use whatever we achieve to benchmark against. How about a little professional camaraderie? The profession in general has been slowly clawing back from the effects of bankruptcies and oversupply. We want to do our part to bolster compensation for this noble form of vocation. 10/250!