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Yup...If you hate it so much and are so upset your still getting a paycheck, just quit...

Then you can come on this board and pound your chest, otherwise once again..

STFU
Check, and check.

You would have still gotten a paycheck if that turd TA was voted down, despite what you were led to believe.
 
Check, and check.

You would have still gotten a paycheck if that turd TA was voted down, despite what you were led to believe.

Yeah, I would have got a bankruptcy imposed check that would have been 4% lower than the one I get now. I would have also got less days off, paid more for my healthcare, no more trip cancellation pay, lost the pay out, and every other fun part of the companies proposal. Than I would have to hear you bitch about how we should have taken the first offer and we screwed the industry. Monday morning quarterbacking is easy.

That is what you and your hero vxso continually fail to understand.

You two think that if everyone voted no, Delta was just going to throw up their hands and say "Oh you're right, keep your pay the way it is right now. YOU WIN!" "Second thought, you guys are so tough here is a raise."

Is that how that would have worked if we were all tough guys like you?
 
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Yeah, I would have got a bankruptcy imposed check that would have been 4% lower than the one I get now. I would have also got less days off, paid more for my healthcare, no more trip cancellation pay, lost the pay out, and every other fun part of the companies proposal. Than I would have to hear you bitch about how we should have taken the first offer and we screwed the industry. Monday morning quarterbacking is easy.

That is what you and your hero vxso continually fail to understand.

You two think that if everyone voted no, Delta was just going to throw up their hands and say "Oh you're right, keep your pay the way it is right now. YOU WIN!" "Second thought, you guys are so tough here is a raise."

Is that how that would have worked if we were all tough guys like you?

Luckily 85% of the pilots here are smarter than you and you're cowardly little troll buddy.
If you believed the union and company message that 9E would wind down unless you voted yes, why wouldn't you believe them when they said the company would not be going back to court to seek another motion 1113?

You sound like a FO Forever as your name implies, I don't understand what you gain by voting in a 4th year top at 37/hr. As a FO with no upgrade in sight, you'd be better off going to Skywest or Compass, and by 2nd year you'd make the same or more as a FO than you would as a 4th year maxed 9E FO. As a FO, why stick around 9E? If you voted yes for the 6k bribe, keep in mind that places like Republic and Eagle are offering 5k just to show up to class.

And please don't insult the rest of the regional industry by saying that 85% are smarter because they voluntarily voted in pay concessions that will drive down the next section 6 negotiations at another regional airline.
 
If you believed the union and company message that 9E would wind down unless you voted yes, why wouldn't you believe them when they said the company would not be going back to court to seek another motion 1113?

You sound like a FO Forever as your name implies, I don't understand what you gain by voting in a 4th year top at 37/hr. As a FO with no upgrade in sight, you'd be better off going to Skywest or Compass, and by 2nd year you'd make the same or more as a FO than you would as a 4th year maxed 9E FO. As a FO, why stick around 9E? If you voted yes for the 6k bribe, keep in mind that places like Republic and Eagle are offering 5k just to show up to class.

And please don't insult the rest of the regional industry by saying that 85% are smarter because they voluntarily voted in pay concessions that will drive down the next section 6 negotiations at another regional airline.

Who says I believe them?

You didn't answer the question.

What happens after the no vote?

You really think they would just give up and say "you win"?
 
Who says I believe them?

You didn't answer the question.

What happens after the no vote?

You really think they would just give up and say "you win"?

You guys caved in on the first attack! Watch no furgloughs and more 76 seat airplanes at ******************** wages. Its ok I understand you guys helped pinnacle. Good job buddy but regardless you guys are right. What you guys don't get and what pisses me off is that GOOD aviators are forced to quit flying because of the wages you guys brought upon them. You guys prob have mom and daddy pay the bills or the wifey. Pride is what you guys don't get. Thats why our industry freaking blows and are categorized as "grey hound" drivers. Its pathetic really. Yet still people run to get the airplane on-time and all sorts crap. I give up my light at the end of the tunnel is getting brighter so whatever enjoy!
 
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Yeah, I would have got a bankruptcy imposed check that would have been 4% lower than the one I get now. I would have also got less days off, paid more for my healthcare, no more trip cancellation pay, lost the pay out, and every other fun part of the companies proposal. Than I would have to hear you bitch about how we should have taken the first offer and we screwed the industry. Monday morning quarterbacking is easy.

That is what you and your hero vxso continually fail to understand.

You two think that if everyone voted no, Delta was just going to throw up their hands and say "Oh you're right, keep your pay the way it is right now. YOU WIN!" "Second thought, you guys are so tough here is a raise."

Is that how that would have worked if we were all tough guys like you?

In wich case we should (would ha aha ha) have immediately walked off the job and told the imposing court to lick it.... But with 85%, we probably would have just offered to take a bigger cut so the ultra senior didn't have to get off their 15+ year azzes and look for a better job. Instead we continue with all the FO's at food stamp wages.
 
First off, if he was around to fly the Avro, he at least had a long chance to be a captain..... If not still, albiet a crap reserve line at this point.

Who says I believe them? You by your actions

You didn't answer the question.

What happens after the no vote? Either Delta changes their plans to keep from looking foolish, while changing their diaper, or we see that the planes were coming anyway... either way it was going to take more than 6 months

You really think they would just give up and say "you win" Not a chance but they wouldn't be able to kill us in the time frame quoted. Ultimately you have to look at the money... it always comes down to money. Where were they going to move stuff for a cheaper option that would actually function? Hint, NOT the Skywest family.
 
If you believed the union and company message that 9E would wind down unless you voted yes, why wouldn't you believe them when they said the company would not be going back to court to seek another motion 1113?

You sound like a FO Forever as your name implies, I don't understand what you gain by voting in a 4th year top at 37/hr. As a FO with no upgrade in sight, you'd be better off going to Skywest or Compass, and by 2nd year you'd make the same or more as a FO than you would as a 4th year maxed 9E FO. As a FO, why stick around 9E? If you voted yes for the 6k bribe, keep in mind that places like Republic and Eagle are offering 5k just to show up to class.

And please don't insult the rest of the regional industry by saying that 85% are smarter because they voluntarily voted in pay concessions that will drive down the next section 6 negotiations at another regional airline.


Talk about throwing stones.....You constantly spew your opinion about others pay rates. Pinnacle is within ten dollars in its pay rates with other that fly the same equipment. Your airline pay rates are grossly undercutting others that fly the same equipment. I just took my six year rate on the 320/319 to see how your airline pays,,,,,we pay $123 you $85....that's $38 dollars LESS. Hell your Captains only make $7 /hr more than our FO's!! Maybe you shouldn't jump on others pay rates when yours are so low yourself.

I am sure you will come up with some excuse that your airline is new or you are in line with some other lowly lcc. Doesn't matter, yours undercut ours and you are on here all high and mighty talking about others doing the same thing.
 

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