Bloch Interpertation and 9E

[big shacks]

Well... it's only 9E that got the shaft with the Bloch award. Pretty sure XJ 2000-04 hires really have nothing to be angry about. We made out like kings!

 

[jynxyjericho]

Well... it's only 9E that got the shaft with the Bloch award. Pretty sure XJ 2000-04 hires really have nothing to be angry about. We made out like kings!

You guys have always been screwed to the wall.

 

[big shacks]

Affirm..but the back hair is growing like a Chia Pet from all the great news. Oh well...we all have been affected/infected by this merger...Except colgan that is.

 

[jynxyjericho]

Affirm..but the back hair is growing like a Chia Pet from all the great news. Oh well...we all have been affected/infected by this merger...Except colgan that is.

Well the bottom half got rogered. The top half was fleeing earlier. Maybe it'll all work out.

 

[Flyer1015]

Well... it's only 9E that got the shaft with the Bloch award. Pretty sure XJ 2000-04 hires really have nothing to be angry about. We made out like kings!

Oh I sympathize with these guys, believe me. I wrote a thread on airlinks about how relative would hurt us and how DOH was best, but that thread was killed at the request of the 9E merger committee. I still think DOH would have been best, and most easiest pill to swallow. XJ and 9E would have been fair with it, and as for Colgan they would lose on DOH merger but god forbid they have to spend more than 15 months before upgrading to Saab captain. You XJ folks probably know this already, but the 9E's committee's #1 goal was to protect the seniors at 9E. I was told by one of the merger members that the -900 category was our worst case scenario and this was right after the Bloch award came out. Oh well. When you argue and fight unfairly, not update seniority lists, and not clarify up the class date issue, expect to have your rear end handed to you. To all XJ pilots, sorry 9E was too arrogant and didn't go for DOH.

 

[jynxyjericho]

To all XJ pilots, sorry 9E was too arrogant and didn't go for DOH.

What Hunter and his boys did, he did with the best information he chose to make available to himself and did what he thought was best for his pilots. Unfortunately the man wasn't equal to the task. Myself, I hope he lays awake at night regretting it and maybe he'll learn some humility.

Wasn't all 9E fault, which is why I'm writing this. When everyone reads the mea culpa above please remember this was a few appointed people at 9E, not 9E as a group.

One for all and all for one and all that crap.

 

[xjhawk]

yeah I was pissed at our union guys (XJ) for playing hard ball about the actual DOH and when Pinnacle decided to call your first day of employment. I thought that if that was given and not fought over, there might have been something to work with.

 

[Flyer1015]

What Hunter and his boys did, he did with the best information he chose to make available to himself and did what he thought was best for his pilots. Unfortunately the man wasn't equal to the task. Myself, I hope he lays awake at night regretting it and maybe he'll learn some humility.

Wasn't all 9E fault, which is why I'm writing this. When everyone reads the mea culpa above please remember this was a few appointed people at 9E, not 9E as a group.

One for all and all for one and all that crap.

Agreed, but how does one arrive at "did what he thought was best for his pilots." Personally, I think it's common sense. If you represent a group of people, and it's time to decide on a certain matter, then that matter should be sent out to vote by the people group! What would have been wrong with that? This way, he would have gone into negotiations with a clear picture of what the pilot group wants. It's hard to imagine him fighting for anyone except the senior side considering how staunchly against DOH they were. Instead, they were never interested in what the pilot group thought or wanted. Any dissent (aka, opinions) about how the SLI should go was quickly deleted at their request.

 

[jynxyjericho]

Agreed, but how does one arrive at "did what he thought was best for his pilots." Personally, I think it's common sense. If you represent a group of people, and it's time to decide on a certain matter, then that matter should be sent out to vote by the people group! What would have been wrong with that? This way, he would have gone into negotiations with a clear picture of what the pilot group wants. It's hard to imagine him fighting for anyone except the senior side considering how staunchly against DOH they were. Instead, they were never interested in what the pilot group thought or wanted. Any dissent (aka, opinions) about how the SLI should go was quickly deleted at their request.

Common sense isn't common. I can't begin to get into Hunter's head on that but it is reasonable to assume Hunter had reasons that made sense to him and that he felt were fair. If he had more brains in his head he could have listened to all sides and changed his mind as he went along, but from second hand stories and you have the evidence in details of the Bloch award, he just couldn't find the way to get his own head out of his own butt.

However, I don't see Colgan ever taken DOH. It seems like even if Pinnacle merger and XJ Merger agreed Colgan would still be pushing for something more relative. Obviously you had to protect some career expectations for the Colgan captains, no one was able to forecast the entire fleet being parked as a result of BK, so maybe the Bloch award was fate?

Anyway, forget Hunter and forget Bloch. I say "forget" instead of another F word. This is what we got. This is what we have to work with.

 

[big shacks]

Yep..we have to work with this turd sandwich...so what's up with the 900 in HOU? Heard some pretty bad deets about how it happened....and if it's true the punishment will be completely understandable...on the bright side maybe we can consider this a door to door delivery for XJT.

 

[Flyer1015]

Good posts above, agreed.