US Airways Contract Projections

[cactusboy53]

Its always about seniority. That's just reality that any union pilot knows. Everything begins and ends with seniority. No one would ever entertain trading one for the other, even if such a ridiculous, fanciful notion could even ever exist.

Crandall was interviewed by Bloomberg (published today) and he even gets it. The one obstacle he has to the AA/USAir merger: "The key issue is Pilots have to agree on a seniority integration scheme." "I think the merger is doable and there is some appeal.. but it needs that pilot integration cooperation."

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/amer...ble-crandall-says-T~TDX_ApS1WczfVNFmQxtA.html

APA and USAPA get it. Now on the table. LOS +1 for APA, 7 year fence. One contract all pilots on date of signing.

Actually, he doesn't get it. He was unaware that we already did the seniority list, but one party refuses to abide by their word. Bob has been properly educated. Everyone else knows that USAPA's sole purpose is a DOH land grab where a furloughed FO can unseat a working captain.

It will all be over very soon if the merger goes through. It might not be the way I think it will happen (although logic, law, ethics & morals dictate it should), but I'd bet a bunch of bananas that it won't go the way you think it will. APA is keenly aware of the legal trapeze act that USAPA is performing.

Happy days boys. Maybe St. Nic is closer than you think (it is December, afterall).

 

[get2flyin]

How's the nic working out for ya?

How's the staple job the East proposed worked out for you?

 

[charlie2]

Maybe this year, you should have your grandchildren read the Nicolau Award to you in its entirety, followed by the Addington transcripts and including Judge Wake and Judge Silver. Those little guys and gals may be able to clue you in on the facts and explain to you what you are failing to see. Integrity matters Marine.

Dont get all worked up over my avatar, rather stick to the facts and important details. I may change it just for you.

I have read the entire award and I will admit his methodology seemed ok but the end result screwed us so we fight on. There should have been some integrity in an organization (ALPA) that I was paying lots of money to. Thanks though for addressing me as Marine...haven't heard that for a few yeas and I really wish I was still in but to old!

 

[charlie2]

How's the staple job the East proposed worked out for you?

Please please please chage your avatar?????!!!!!

 

[Superbird]

Please please please chage your avatar?????!!!!!

Do you consider Usapa corrupt?

 

[Superbird]

I have read the entire award and I will admit his methodology seemed ok but the end result screwed us so we fight on. There should have been some integrity in an organization (ALPA) that I was paying lots of money to. Thanks though for addressing me as Marine...haven't heard that for a few yeas and I really wish I was still in but to old!

Should we address you as "Captain" too? How long has it been?

hmmmm, the methodology was ok, but then end result screwed you? How? Because it wasnt doh? ALPA failed both properties. We agreed to binding arbitration, did we not?!?

 

[Flybywire44]

Not all APA pilots want to merge.

None of them will want the Nic award on the property.

http://www.howardoshell.blogspot.com/2012/12/ucc-messagemy-thoughts-on-merger-with_10.html?m=1

 

[charlie2]

Should we address you as "Captain" too? How long has it been?

hmmmm, the methodology was ok, but then end result screwed you? How? Because it wasnt doh? ALPA failed both properties. We agreed to binding arbitration, did we not?!?

Not an airline captain but a Marine Lieutent Colonel...got passed over for O6 a million times and took the hint and retired. We already know that you want a guy in traing to win an arbitration and be us old guys captains but sit back a second...do you really think we aren't going to fight it? You do have to admit one thing...we have fought it for quite a few years without losing yet!

 

[charlie2]

Do you consider Usapa corrupt?

I hate unions but in this stupid business of flying a family to Wally World I think it is a necessity. One of the reasons I think that it is importent is because of senority which is based on date of hire. I had a freind who was a pilot in Croatia who because of his MIG-21 flying for the Yugoslavian Air Force was constantly passed over for captain and new hires were put in his left seat.

 

[charlie2]

Should we address you as "Captain" too? How long has it been?

hmmmm, the methodology was ok, but then end result screwed you? How? Because it wasnt doh? ALPA failed both properties. We agreed to binding arbitration, did we not?!?

Yes ALPA failed us.