US Airways Contract Projections

[buxflyr]

Projections from those who may know. Its confusing anymore as to where the court room proceedings are, when negotiations can begin, USAPA sucks, ALPA was worse or better, how the west was won, etc.


Stand-Alone: When would/could negotiations begin? Acceptance of the NIC being the only way?

Merger: Any details on a proposed combined pay scale?

 

[SXMp2c]

ibtl!

 

[dollacrackho]

Its really a complete waste of time to start any thread on airways. the possibility for rational discussion is not a reality sadly. now cue 8 pages of the circle jerk by the usual 5 people that spew their verbal diarrhea.

 

[cactusboy53]

Projections from those who may know. Its confusing anymore as to where the court room proceedings are, when negotiations can begin, USAPA sucks, ALPA was worse or better, how the west was won, etc.


Stand-Alone: When would/could negotiations begin? Acceptance of the NIC being the only way?

Merger: Any details on a proposed combined pay scale?

Stand-alone: We (USAPA) have asked the NMB to compel the company to return to the table to negotiate everything save for section 22 (seniority). Both parties (USAPA & Company) were to deliver response to NMB on or by the 21st. We wait for that.

USAPA's position regarding seniority is that they "have won", per Silver's court base ruling. Both the company & Leonidas have asked Judge Silver to reconsider some of the order. Not sure when Judge Silver will finish ruling on additional filings.

Negotiations could begin in late winter, early spring.

Merger: Lots of moving parts. APA have a negotiated TA (I believe) with AMR. That is the document that leads who runs what and when. Company still held to a Non-Disclosure agreement presently.

Links to all of the litigation & filings verbatim can be found at: www.cactuspilot.com (no pass words needed for access).

I hope that is the information that you are looking for.

CB

 

[Carl S.]

Stand alone, expect no new contract for 3 to 5 years.... AMR/LCC expect seperate ops. for 18 to 36 months before a contract .... The East is driving this train wreck in hopes of the impossible, but they hold the keys to moving on....

 

[LaGarbage Man]

Its really a complete waste of time to start any thread on airways. the possibility for rational discussion is not a reality sadly. now cue 8 pages of the circle jerk by the usual 5 people that spew their verbal diarrhea.

Yep, It's beyond frustrating.

 

[buxflyr]

Stand-alone: We (USAPA) have asked the NMB to compel the company to return to the table to negotiate everything save for section 22 (seniority). Both parties (USAPA & Company) were to deliver response to NMB on or by the 21st. We wait for that.

USAPA's position regarding seniority is that they "have won", per Silver's court base ruling. Both the company & Leonidas have asked Judge Silver to reconsider some of the order. Not sure when Judge Silver will finish ruling on additional filings.

Negotiations could begin in late winter, early spring.

Merger: Lots of moving parts. APA have a negotiated TA (I believe) with AMR. That is the document that leads who runs what and when. Company still held to a Non-Disclosure agreement presently.

Links to all of the litigation & filings verbatim can be found at: www.cactuspilot.com (no pass words needed for access).

I hope that is the information that you are looking for.

CB

Its good info, but not what I wanted to hear. Thanks though.

If the chance to go to Airways becomes a reality, you really are playing the powerball...or so it seems.

Everyone get their tix by the way?

 

[Turtle21]

Projections from those who may know. Its confusing anymore as to where the court room proceedings are, when negotiations can begin, USAPA sucks, ALPA was worse or better, how the west was won, etc.


Stand-Alone: When would/could negotiations begin? Acceptance of the NIC being the only way?

Merger: Any details on a proposed combined pay scale?

Strand-alone: The only thing preventing contract negotiations with the USAir pilots is the company's apparent apathy to achieve a new contract with us. The company was highly motivated to secretly and quickly work out a contract with three (3), yes that's THREE unions at AA.

Merger: Pay scale? Well that depends if you want to know the pay scale for the employees that are downgraded, furloughed, or at the outsourced companies... as a result of the tectonic scope changes. Time line? Well since Parker merged AWA and US over seven years ago and hasn't figured out a new contract for the pilots or the FAs... and the country goes over the fiscal cliff in January...

Thankfully the laws of aerodynamics are completely unaffected by any of these things.

 

[Tweaker]

"Strand-alone: The only thing preventing contract negotiations with the USAir pilots is the company's apparent apathy to achieve a new contract with us. The company was highly motivated to secretly and quickly work out a contract with three (3), yes that's THREE unions at AA."

So you noticed that too, eh?

 

[B-atch]

...Its the West pilots fault!!