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Eh... if you say so. Not too terribly concerned about it; there's nothing to try to "backpedal" from.

If you go back and look, it was more in response to people talking about our "culture" than anything else, and reflected my personal stance of not being in a very good job (outside the airline world) and willing to take just about anything at the time to get back in.

What's changed since then? I'm back, with longevity and seniority, with 4 legal battle victories and not a single loss, online, and 2 to 2 1/2 years from upgrade. Not nearly in as dire straits as I was then.

If you'll also look back, several other AirTran pilots in the thread spoke up and said they would NOT be willing to take a staple job. Pretty clear cut. A few people would take a staple, a few people will insist on the most they can get and screw everyone else, and the truth is, as always, somewhere in the middle.

We now return you to "the spin zone". ;)
 
What's changed? That's pretty simple, SWA management has made it official that they feel they NEED AirTran to prosper, otherwise they would not have wanted to merge.
 
All I can say is WOW!

The greed of the AirTranny CAs commenting on this board is astounding. A few months ago you were literally begging for a staple, and now that you got your wish you are pretending that you don't really want it just to get MORE!

Sad and pathetic guys.
 
All I can say is WOW!

The greed of the AirTranny CAs commenting on this board is astounding. A few months ago you were literally begging for a staple, and now that you got your wish you are pretending that you don't really want it just to get MORE!

Sad and pathetic guys.

Over and over you advocated a "vote" between the pilot groups. Now you are saying we should just take a staple? I would have more respect for your point of view if you were at least consistent. Now, I'm convinced you are just trying to stir the pot with a feeble attempt at flame baiting. At least Instructor Dude is somewhat entertaining.........
 
Over and over you advocated a "vote" between the pilot groups. Now you are saying we should just take a staple? I would have more respect for your point of view if you were at least consistent. Now, I'm convinced you are just trying to stir the pot with a feeble attempt at flame baiting. At least Instructor Dude is somewhat entertaining.........

I still advocate a vote, and from the looks of this thread a staple vote would easily pass.

All SWA pilots should print out and copy this entire thread. It provides some real insight into AirTran pilots' TRUE frame of mind, and not just their negotiating faces at the table.

The greed of the AirTran guys on this board would be hilarious if it wasn't so sickening.
 
I still advocate a vote, and from the looks of this thread a staple vote would easily pass.

All SWA pilots should print out and copy this entire thread. It provides some real insight into AirTran pilots' TRUE frame of mind, and not just their negotiating faces at the table.

The greed of the AirTran guys on this board would be hilarious if it wasn't so sickening.

My "TRUE frame of mind" right now is that I'm arguing with an idiot with no obvious understanding of union representation, labor negotiations or law that is not involved with either airline.
 
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Talk about hypocrisy!!

I still advocate a vote, and from the looks of this thread a staple vote would easily pass.


It doesn't really matter what you advocate, or what I advocate. It will be up to an arbitrator.


All SWA pilots should print out and copy this entire thread. It provides some real insight into AirTran pilots' TRUE frame of mind, and not just their negotiating faces at the table.
I don't think so, Chief, anymore than you "represent SWA pilots, regardless of their face at the table". Who even says those posts were made by AirTran pilots, and in what context? If they are AirTran pilots, they sure aren't indicative of our Captains, which are the majority of pilots.

The greed of the AirTran guys on this board would be hilarious if it wasn't so sickening.
You mean as opposed to your greed? You are advocating displacing AirTran's 900 Captains so that you can upgrade years ahead of your current projections? :erm:
 
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My "TRUE frame of mind" right now is that I'm arguing with an idiot with no obvious understanding of union representation, labor negotiations or law that is not involved with either airline.

You are right about not having any involvement with either airline. I'm just a casual observer whose become somewhat fascinated by the facade you AirTran CAs are displaying, when it's obvious that you would gladly take a seat on the SWA seniority list anywhere.

This thread is a gold mine for the people currently discussing this. It's like a poker player getting a peak at what the other guy is holding.

My personal opinion obviously doesn't matter, but if it were up to me, I would staple the AirTran pilots to the SWA list. That way, only a very small group of AirTran pilots (AT CAs) wouldn't be happy, but they would accept it regardless.

Any other form of list integration runs the risk of pissing off thousands of pilots and potentially destroying the culture of the new airline.
 
You are right about not having any involvement with either airline. I'm just a casual observer whose become somewhat fascinated by the facade you AirTran CAs are displaying, when it's obvious that you would gladly take a seat on the SWA seniority list anywhere.

This thread is a gold mine for the people currently discussing this. It's like a poker player getting a peak at what the other guy is holding.

My personal opinion obviously doesn't matter, but if it were up to me, I would staple the AirTran pilots to the SWA list. That way, only a very small group of AirTran pilots (AT CAs) wouldn't be happy, but they would accept it regardless.

Any other form of list integration runs the risk of pissing off thousands of pilots and potentially destroying the culture of the new airline.

Poker games aren't decided by an arbitrator. Have fun watching from the sidelines, both groups will do just fine.
 

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