Please BUY AAI!!

[Ty Webb]

Dude. That was last December. Either way it is funny.

You're right . . . . and it is funny, I'll give you that, too.

I'm trying to remember who that is in your pic, Kmart, former USAir CEO?

 

[K-Mart]

You're right . . . . and it is funny, I'll give you that, too.

I'm trying to remember who that is in your pic, Kmart, former USAir CEO?

Kit Darby! Our hero.

 

[GuppyWN]

Kit Darby is "Da Man!"

He has predicted 7 out of the last 2 pilot shortages!

Gup

 

[vixin]

I can sum it up. Hypocrites! Pretty nice find.

 

[arjayeffo]

Hands down, funniest -bump- in FI history.

 

[Vingus]

I've heard for 6 months that Q1 2010 SWA will buy AirTran. However, I just can't imagine the train wreck that will insue.

I'd like to start the bidding with pure staple

Gup

This one says it all!

 

[Lear70]

Eh... if you say so. Not too terribly concerned about it; there's nothing to try to "backpedal" from.

If you go back and look, it was more in response to people talking about our "culture" than anything else, and reflected my personal stance of not being in a very good job (outside the airline world) and willing to take just about anything at the time to get back in.

What's changed since then? I'm back, with longevity and seniority, with 4 legal battle victories and not a single loss, online, and 2 to 2 1/2 years from upgrade. Not nearly in as dire straits as I was then.

If you'll also look back, several other AirTran pilots in the thread spoke up and said they would NOT be willing to take a staple job. Pretty clear cut. A few people would take a staple, a few people will insist on the most they can get and screw everyone else, and the truth is, as always, somewhere in the middle.

We now return you to "the spin zone".

 

[Dan Roman]

What's changed? That's pretty simple, SWA management has made it official that they feel they NEED AirTran to prosper, otherwise they would not have wanted to merge.

 

[Bob Dylan]

All I can say is WOW!

The greed of the AirTranny CAs commenting on this board is astounding. A few months ago you were literally begging for a staple, and now that you got your wish you are pretending that you don't really want it just to get MORE!

Sad and pathetic guys.

 

[Kharma Police]

All I can say is WOW!

The greed of the AirTranny CAs commenting on this board is astounding. A few months ago you were literally begging for a staple, and now that you got your wish you are pretending that you don't really want it just to get MORE!

Sad and pathetic guys.

Over and over you advocated a "vote" between the pilot groups. Now you are saying we should just take a staple? I would have more respect for your point of view if you were at least consistent. Now, I'm convinced you are just trying to stir the pot with a feeble attempt at flame baiting. At least Instructor Dude is somewhat entertaining.........

 

[Bob Dylan]

Over and over you advocated a "vote" between the pilot groups. Now you are saying we should just take a staple? I would have more respect for your point of view if you were at least consistent. Now, I'm convinced you are just trying to stir the pot with a feeble attempt at flame baiting. At least Instructor Dude is somewhat entertaining.........

I still advocate a vote, and from the looks of this thread a staple vote would easily pass.

All SWA pilots should print out and copy this entire thread. It provides some real insight into AirTran pilots' TRUE frame of mind, and not just their negotiating faces at the table.

The greed of the AirTran guys on this board would be hilarious if it wasn't so sickening.

 

[Kharma Police]

I still advocate a vote, and from the looks of this thread a staple vote would easily pass.

All SWA pilots should print out and copy this entire thread. It provides some real insight into AirTran pilots' TRUE frame of mind, and not just their negotiating faces at the table.

The greed of the AirTran guys on this board would be hilarious if it wasn't so sickening.

My "TRUE frame of mind" right now is that I'm arguing with an idiot with no obvious understanding of union representation, labor negotiations or law that is not involved with either airline.

 

[Ty Webb]

Talk about hypocrisy!!

I still advocate a vote, and from the looks of this thread a staple vote would easily pass.

It doesn't really matter what you advocate, or what I advocate. It will be up to an arbitrator.

All SWA pilots should print out and copy this entire thread. It provides some real insight into AirTran pilots' TRUE frame of mind, and not just their negotiating faces at the table.

I don't think so, Chief, anymore than you "represent SWA pilots, regardless of their face at the table". Who even says those posts were made by AirTran pilots, and in what context? If they are AirTran pilots, they sure aren't indicative of our Captains, which are the majority of pilots.

The greed of the AirTran guys on this board would be hilarious if it wasn't so sickening.

You mean as opposed to your greed? You are advocating displacing AirTran's 900 Captains so that you can upgrade years ahead of your current projections? :erm:

 

[Bob Dylan]

My "TRUE frame of mind" right now is that I'm arguing with an idiot with no obvious understanding of union representation, labor negotiations or law that is not involved with either airline.

You are right about not having any involvement with either airline. I'm just a casual observer whose become somewhat fascinated by the facade you AirTran CAs are displaying, when it's obvious that you would gladly take a seat on the SWA seniority list anywhere.

This thread is a gold mine for the people currently discussing this. It's like a poker player getting a peak at what the other guy is holding.

My personal opinion obviously doesn't matter, but if it were up to me, I would staple the AirTran pilots to the SWA list. That way, only a very small group of AirTran pilots (AT CAs) wouldn't be happy, but they would accept it regardless.

Any other form of list integration runs the risk of pissing off thousands of pilots and potentially destroying the culture of the new airline.

 

[Kharma Police]

You are right about not having any involvement with either airline. I'm just a casual observer whose become somewhat fascinated by the facade you AirTran CAs are displaying, when it's obvious that you would gladly take a seat on the SWA seniority list anywhere.

This thread is a gold mine for the people currently discussing this. It's like a poker player getting a peak at what the other guy is holding.

My personal opinion obviously doesn't matter, but if it were up to me, I would staple the AirTran pilots to the SWA list. That way, only a very small group of AirTran pilots (AT CAs) wouldn't be happy, but they would accept it regardless.

Any other form of list integration runs the risk of pissing off thousands of pilots and potentially destroying the culture of the new airline.

Poker games aren't decided by an arbitrator. Have fun watching from the sidelines, both groups will do just fine.

 

[Bob Dylan]

Poker games aren't decided by an arbitrator. Have fun watching from the sidelines, both groups will do just fine.

Well then hopefully the arbitrator will consider the fact that less than a year ago you guys were ready to burn AAI down. Hopefully someone on the SWA side of the table will dig up threads like this one and possibly more evidence so the arbitrator has all the information necessary to make a decision. A staple will likely be the decision because it is obviously the fairest thing to do and the one think that does the least amount of harm to the entire group.

 

[Lear70]

Personal attacks will not be allowed.

Bob's been given a few days off to think about it. Please refrain and don't start with the profanity, either, that's been getting borderline as well.

/mod

 

[shootr]

Now c'mon, Lear...you're gonna participate AND censor on the same thread? Seems a little bit of a power play. I don't see attacks and profanity unless you've deleted something.

 

[Ty Webb]

A staple will likely be the decision because it is obviously the fairest thing to do and the one think that does the least amount of harm to the entire group.

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. This isn't divorce court, buddy, and there is plenty of past precedent to go on, none of which supports your ridiculous assertions.

Sounds to me like you're just a jealous guy who is trying to get his jollies by provoking pilots who, no matter how things shake out, will have a better lot than you. :laugh:

 

[shootr]

Is Ty attacking Bob? I think he should get a few days off!