New SkyWest pay proposal....anyone?

[Terrain Terrain]

If I was in ALPA I would be a crybaby also, but im not, and I will do EVERYTHING I can to keep that corporation from coming to SKY and taking our 2%. I could care less about any problems that ALPA carriers are having right now. This is sweet, we get a raise!! Thanks alpa, and NO you can not have 2%.

buuuuuu bye!!

ahahaha

 

[HelloNewman]

Is this the typical view at SKW??

Homo boy, let me explain something to ya.....you do have 90 seaters on property and your getting paid a 50 seat rate to fly it. I don't care how many seats you pull out of it, it's still a 90 Seat A/C. It dosen't matter to you because your still in the right seat, but come upgrade you might not be singing the same tune.

For the most part it is the popular view. Sure there are some guys that get all riled up over nothing. Luckily a lot of these guys are leaving. By the time we have a vote if we ever do there should be around 26-2700 pilots on property. The more the better as it makes it all the more difficult for ALPA to hit whatever benchmark they are looking for.

Why would the aircraft type matter when I upgrade? The fact is there are the same number of seats and it can carry what about 10,000 more lbs? Trust me I won't be losing any sleep at night over 10,000 lbs. That amount of weight is virtually nothing in our world.

I would like to be the first to thank ALPA for our raise though. Thanks for your help now either hold the vote or go away, you are an unwelcome guest at our airline. No ALPA or any union dues 34 years and counting baby! Lets make it 40+ years. P.S your BBQs are getting old and nasty old hot dogs or burgers aren't going to change our mind. We certainly are not going to sign a card just to get free racoon meat.

 

[embdrvr]

Is this the typical view at SKW??

Maybe for a handful of pilots but definitely not widespread.

He's an embarassment even to those that would prefer to remain non-union.

 

[EL10]

If you don’t want to share the gains with the 120 pilots that is your choice no problem. If you don’t want representation that is your choice also. What is not your choice is the Railway Labor Act. When the day arrives understand that you will be helpless. You will not have the luxury of waiting for the next representation vote. It takes lots of time to bring in representation. All it takes is one bad decision by a management to need it.

If your argument is that Atkin leadership style will be around for ever think twice. Howard Hughes, Juan Trippe, Eddie Rickenbacker, and Kenney Friedkin did not last for ever. TWA, Pan Am, Eastern, and PSA are all gone. ALPA is still alive. The IBT still exists. Even APA has been around longer then SkyWest. If your mangers treat you with respect you deserve why would they hold it against you? Southwest which we all know is the most unionized airline, yet rated the highest in employee satisfaction of there leadership.

So ALPA is crying? If you want to look at the small picture you may assume that. What set the market rate of $20.00/hour for new hires? What justified a 1% ATB increase? Current environment made that seem appealing to you. What would be the environment if ALPA had given into XJ’s demand of 19.4%, if Comair had taken its hits, 9E agreed to the companies’ offer of 5% cuts? The same economic conditions, just different people with different attitudes prevented the reverse inflation of salaries. ExpressJet could have buckled under pressure but instead are voting on twice the percentage your being “surveyed” for. ALPA is not crying. Each property is holding its own; all while enjoying the benefits of strength in legislative, legal, aeromedical, and safety.

Your fear of career expectations at SkyWest are only going to increased with out long term representation. By willfully accepting less over a long period of time, makes it easier for those around you to expect the same which returns back to you again having to accept less to stay “ahead”.

Things may continue to be rich for the SkyWest family for the next ten years, and I wish they will be. It will be really unfortunate to look back and see that you didn’t take pause for the long term success over a few pennies in gains today.

Vote in Representation.
Doesn’t matter who it comes from just pick one.

 

[ArcticFlier]

Is this the typical view at SKW??

(S)he'd like you to think so...............................but it's not even close. it's just some close-minded thinking....................You have the ability to ignore this user. I just might.



AF

 

[bender]

seems split between wanting representation and not. also seems like the majority of skw pilots don't want to merge pilot groups.

 

[Popeye0537]

For the most part it is the popular view. Sure there are some guys that get all riled up over nothing. Luckily a lot of these guys are leaving. By the time we have a vote if we ever do there should be around 26-2700 pilots on property. The more the better as it makes it all the more difficult for ALPA to hit whatever benchmark they are looking for.

Why would the aircraft type matter when I upgrade? The fact is there are the same number of seats and it can carry what about 10,000 more lbs? Trust me I won't be losing any sleep at night over 10,000 lbs. That amount of weight is virtually nothing in our world.

I would like to be the first to thank ALPA for our raise though. Thanks for your help now either hold the vote or go away, you are an unwelcome guest at our airline. No ALPA or any union dues 34 years and counting baby! Lets make it 40+ years. P.S your BBQs are getting old and nasty old hot dogs or burgers aren't going to change our mind. We certainly are not going to sign a card just to get free racoon meat.

Time to get off the teet, the reason aircraft type matters when you upgrade if the difference in pay with the difference in type. With your 500 hours of flight time I don't expect you to grasp that concept. I'm always welcome on a united express carrier, there is not much YOU can do about it sittin gear bitch.

BTW I don't care much about ALPA, but you need to get some sort of representation because it sounds to me like you lack a back bone.

 

[HelloNewman]

Time to get off the teet, the reason aircraft type matters when you upgrade if the difference in pay with the difference in type. With your 500 hours of flight time I don't expect you to grasp that concept. I'm always welcome on a united express carrier, there is not much YOU can do about it sittin gear bitch.

BTW I don't care much about ALPA, but you need to get some sort of representation because it sounds to me like you lack a back bone.

Well some people may feel they need representation and that is fine. It really does get old however hearing people trying to tell us as a pilot group what we need and don't need. Actually with this new pay package both FOs and Captains get the over-ride and therefore different pay between the 50 seater and 70/76 seaters.

In the end I do not think the union vote will pass in fact we may never even have a vote but thats ALPAs problem not mine. I'm tired of people trying to tell us what we need or don't need. We can decide for ourselves thank you very much. I am ready to get my raise, vote ALPA down and move on with my life.

I think a lot of this boils down to jealousy really. Union carriers are jealous because we do quite well for ourselves and don't have to pay for it. I don't know how else to explain their illogical hatred of us. We make more than most union airlines. That should make us amongst friends not enemies correct? We can all still get along, just because we don't want a union doesn't make us bad guys.

 

[mckpickle]

Well some people may feel they need representation and that is fine. It really does get old however hearing people trying to tell us as a pilot group what we need and don't need. Actually with this new pay package both FOs and Captains get the over-ride and therefore different pay between the 50 seater and 70/76 seaters.

In the end I do not think the union vote will pass in fact we may never even have a vote but thats ALPAs problem not mine. I'm tired of people trying to tell us what we need or don't need. We can decide for ourselves thank you very much. I am ready to get my raise, vote ALPA down and move on with my life.

I think a lot of this boils down to jealousy really. Union carriers are jealous because we do quite well for ourselves and don't have to pay for it. I don't know how else to explain their illogical hatred of us. We make more than most union airlines. That should make us amongst friends not enemies correct? We can all still get along, just because we don't want a union doesn't make us bad guys.

Are you out of your gord? ALPA carriers are not jealous. We are pis$ed that you guys suckle off of the gain we make while contributing nothing to the profession. You've not gotten 1 thing on your own. You've gotten everything because other ALPA carriers got it first. Holey Christ, I can't believe you actually believe the spew coming from your cake hole!

 

[Terrain Terrain]

get a tampon, and get over it.


sheez no one cares about you or alpa eat sh|t