New SkyWest pay proposal....anyone?

[jehtplane]

Here are some rough numbers for Capt.
Years current + proposed over ride 700/900
5 $ 63.00 101% $ 63.63 105% $ 66.81
6 $ 65.00 - ------$ 65.65 ---------$ 68.93
7 $ 67.00 ---------$ 67.67 ---------$ 71.05
8 $ 69.00 ---------$ 69.69--------- $ 73.17
9 $ 71.00 ---------$ 71.71--------- $ 75.30
10 $ 74.00-------- $ 74.74 ---------$ 78.48
11 $ 76.00--------- $ 76.76-------- $ 80.60
12 $ 78.00 ---------$ 78.78 --------$ 82.72
13 $ 81.00 ---------$ 81.81 --------$ 85.90
14 $ 83.00 ---------$ 83.83 --------$ 88.02
15 $ 86.00--------- $ 86.86 --------$ 91.20
16 $ 88.00 ---------$ 88.88 --------$ 93.32
17 $ 91.00 ---------$ 91.91 --------$ 96.51
18 $ 93.00 ---------$ 93.93 --------$ 98.63

Those rates are pathetic

 

[BigLebowski]

Can someone from SkyW PM me the rate increase...I'm at SkyW but dont' work for the next few days

 

[Peter Sashell]

how about "taco rocket"

 

[Terrain Terrain]

its in your skywest email account

 

[trachyte11]

A check airman on SAPA told us it was basically this:

1% base increase to -200 rates
5% further increase for a -700/900 override
No increase for Bro pilots
No retro pay
Override is only paid for actual 700/900 flight time (a couple exceptions) and will only be paid IF you break daily AND monthly guarantee.
4 year "duration"

That's basically what I see in my email. Vote yes to this, then yes to representation...

 

[HA25]

Oh, most pilots that have flown the "Brasilia" call it a Brasilia.

Not my recollection...

we called it "Taco", "Brakillya", "Slider 1 and Slider 2" etc.. rarely did I call it a E-120 or Brasilia..

 

[HA25]

Those rates are pathetic

This whole profession has become pathetic.. but we're all still here, which is even more pathetic.

 

[FightingIrish]

This whole profession has become pathetic.. but we're all still here, which is even more pathetic.

Then it's either not that pathetic compared to other jobs, or we are all idiots - which is it?

 

[HA25]

Then it's either not that pathetic compared to other jobs, or we are all idiots - which is it?

The latter.. (mind you I include myself in that grouping).

Seriously, whether it's the free market, union/non-union or what ever, in the end we're grossly underpaid. I've spent time working on the money side of aircraft recently and can tell you without a doubt that the pay equation of airplane operation isn't anywhere near the biggest factor.. it just happens to be the only one that can be squeezed easily, as airplanes can't be made cheaper, and fuel cost are difficult to control if at all.. We allow it to be this way, so we're to blame. When 747 and MD-11 pilots are being paid $35000/yr at the various 2nd tier carriers, how much can we expect to get paid flying a 30 pax E-120? The problem is from the top down, not so much from the bottom up.


I mean, how much have houses gone up in the past 5 years? Cars? Fuel? insurance rates?

Yet, 5 years ago pilots were on average making more than they are today, especially when inflation is factored in. 9/11 or not, there is a problem with how we're all doing this.

 

[FightingIrish]

The latter.. (mind you I include myself in that grouping).

Seriously, whether it's the free market, union/non-union or what ever, in the end we're grossly underpaid. I've spent time working on the money side of aircraft recently and can tell you without a doubt that the pay equation of airplane operation isn't anywhere near the biggest factor.. it just happens to be the only one that can be squeezed easily, as airplanes can't be made cheaper, and fuel cost are difficult to control if at all.. We allow it to be this way, so we're to blame. When 747 and MD-11 pilots are being paid $35000/yr at the various 2nd tier carriers, how much can we expect to get paid flying a 30 pax E-120? The problem is from the top down, not so much from the bottom up.


I mean, how much have houses gone up in the past 5 years? Cars? Fuel? insurance rates?

Yet, 5 years ago pilots were on average making more than they are today, especially when inflation is factored in. 9/11 or not, there is a problem with how we're all doing this.

I'm not disagreeing with you, just commenting on how we all complain about it but we keep doing it. Then we blame it on management, or Skywest, or Mesa , or ALPA, or the Republicans. Maybe it is just our fault and nobody elses. Nobody is holding a gun to our head to do this.