XO Jet Hawkers

[jetwash]

I was wondering why XO went with the Hawkers when both Netjets and Flight Options started to sell them off due to high MX costs of parts.

 

[jonjuan]

I was wondering why XO went with the Hawkers when both Netjets and Flight Options started to sell them off due to high MX costs of parts.

Xo is 68ing the hawkers.

 

[X-rated]

Many thought they were a bad idea from the beginning if for no other reason than the marketing implications of taking NJA's hand-me-downs. I just hope they find room for everyone in the other fleets.

 

[x402]

Xo is 68ing the hawkers.

Is that '86' ing? Like "86 on the the Fish Special."

 

[gret]

Same question...I looked it up and found this-

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=68ing

68ing is the same thing as 69ing except one of the partners is fat

i was 68ing with lauren until she stopped for a food break​

 

[t-bone]

No official word yet, but all indications are the Hawker fleet is in disposal. It also looks like the pilots are being absorbed into the other fleets. 5 start C750 initial training next week. 3 have transitioned over to the Shuttle operation as well...more to follow

 

[CALRepublic]

Not that facts should ever get in the way of FlightInfo posts, but cldfsr the XOJet X flett in much younger than NJA. Based upon a a rough look of the FAA database, NJA has old 6 X's that are model year 2204 or newer (representing 10% of the 59 X's I found registered to NJA), vs. 11 XOJets of the same age repreenting 53% of its fleet. IN fact 84% of NJA's fleet is 2002 or older (17 2002s, 15 2001s, 9 2000s, and 9 from last century). Once upon a time NJA advertised it had the newest fleet in the business but that was a long time ago.

And be careful of what you say, becuase just a few months before XOJet repainted and refurbished them, NJ was flying them beat up, unrefurbished, in what ever condition they were in, but charged premium prices for it, and told and billed owners for refubishing the jets every 3-4 years but sytretched that to 8 years.

Sounds like Netjets is on your poop list...

In about 3 years time XOJET will be on that list as well. I promise you

 

[BushwickBill]

same question...i looked it up and found this-

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=68ing

68ing is the same thing as 69ing except one of the partners is fat

i was 68ing with lauren until she stopped for a food break​

lmao!

 

[imacdog]

Sounds like repainting and refurbishing can't polish an old turd, eh NJAOwner?

 

[t-bone]

No official word yet, but all indications are the Hawker fleet is in disposal. It also looks like the pilots are being absorbed into the other fleets. 5 start C750 initial training next week. 3 have transitioned over to the Shuttle operation as well...more to follow

This is now confirmed. No jobs lost. All Hawker pilots have seats in the other fleets.

No explanation for the change in direction. However it's not hard to figure that out, with as much as they were down for mx.

 

[BushwickBill]

This is now confirmed. No jobs lost. All Hawker pilots have seats in the other fleets.

No explanation for the change in direction. However it's not hard to figure that out, with as much as they were down for mx.

What will happen to all of those poor copilots ready to upgrade in the X and 300 fleet? Bypassed by the hawker guys. Too bad for them I guess...

 

[t-bone]

What will happen to all of those poor copilots ready to upgrade in the X and 300 fleet? Bypassed by the hawker guys. Too bad for them I guess...

In a true seniority-based system, the more senior pilots may bump someone down the list, right? So yes, too bad for them. That's how it works. Seniority doesn't only work to everyone's benefit. But it's better than anyone losing their job, right? To be honest, I'm not sure how the integration will work out. We're just happy that everyone has a seat.

 

[propsarebest]

Left seat guys will go to the left seat, period. There are several airframes that are unstaffed.

 

[imacdog]

What will happen to all of those poor copilots ready to upgrade in the X and 300 fleet? Bypassed by the hawker guys. Too bad for them I guess...

That's how it should work. Company seniority should rule, that way you don't end up with a USA Jet-like situation, where it was "So sorry, we're disposing of XXX aircraft and you're on it, so you're getting furloughed".

 

[BushwickBill]

In a true seniority-based system, the more senior pilots may bump someone down the list, right? So yes, too bad for them. That's how it works. Seniority doesn't only work to everyone's benefit. But it's better than anyone losing their job, right? To be honest, I'm not sure how the integration will work out. We're just happy that everyone has a seat.

Not sure if you understood what I was implying. There are many street captains that were hired into the Hawker well after many of the X and 300 copilots were hired. Also, many copilots upgraded into the hawker and were hired after many X and 300 copilots. So how does that fit into the true seniority situation you fortuitously brought up? If you upgrade using a merit based system does this reset your date of hire?