Why Do People Bash Swa?

[ivauir]

I'll agree, OAK is pretty nasty. However, filthy lavs would be fragrant as a spring day compared to your boarding area. It was a freak show. Spare us the "we fly delightful grandparents, and fresh faced college students" BS. You know as well as I do there are as many crackheads, bums and vagrants. Some people don't need to be at the airport.

Let's call this thread what it really is. It's not a "let's defend poor little SWA airlines" thread. It's the same bunch of SWA folks who like to use any opportunity to boast, brag and chest pound about how some truely awful events that hurt most airlines, helped make theirs better. Happens over and over on here.

Your hatred is showing. Seek help.

 

[Flopgut]

Your hatred is showing. Seek help.

There you are! The gang's all here.

Are you MCO based?

 

[Tejas-Jet]

I'll agree, OAK is pretty nasty.

As a city...I wouldn't want to live there...but the airport isn't all that bad...you're just exaggerating...just like you did back when you proclaimed that SWA officials had paid somebody off when the Wright (Wrong) Amendment compromise was reached.

Did you walk over to where the new gates are? With the 1 hr+ turns that the legacies do, you should have had time to go over there. I don't think that you guys park there...seems that SWA got all the gates in that new area.

You may be "disappointed/frustrated" with SWA's business plan...and it obviously brings you lots of heartburn....but lets not forget who brought frank lorenzo to this industry....

Tejas

 

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....but lets not forget who brought frank lorenzo to this industry....

Tejas

This may be the most assine comment I've read on this board. Excluding pure flame, that is.

 

[Tejas-Jet]

This may be the most assine comment I've read on this board. Excluding pure flame, that is.

Spell Police...Spell Police...Spell Police...

Isn't assinine spelled with 2 "i"s ?

All part of the debate, baby...

Tejas

 

[mdf]

Just when I thought Flop had turned the corner!

 

[capt. megadeth]

More importantly.....who cares?

 

[Flopgut]

As a city...I wouldn't want to live there...but the airport isn't all that bad...you're just exaggerating...just like you did back when you proclaimed that SWA officials had paid somebody off when the Wright (Wrong) Amendment compromise was reached.

Did you walk over to where the new gates are? With the 1 hr+ turns that the legacies do, you should have had time to go over there. I don't think that you guys park there...seems that SWA got all the gates in that new area.

You may be "disappointed/frustrated" with SWA's business plan...and it obviously brings you lots of heartburn....but lets not forget who brought frank lorenzo to this industry....

Tejas

I would not wish Lorenzo on SWA or anybody else.

More to point: I'm frustrated with the consumer expectation that you can come to the airport looking like a filthy bum, punch out the agent, crap in the seat, get piss drunk, all for a $149 round trip ticket and still not be the least bit satisfied. Some seniors have to decide between heating the house or prescription drugs. Energy costs can skyrocket on pure speculation. You would think airline tickets would be the most obvious thing to let fluctuate with market forces! Nope. SWA wants to make it as close to free as possible.

 

[XBOEINGDRVR]

They bash them for the same reasons they bash Jetblue and airtran. Whoever is doing well at that time gets bashed, all I can come up with is that they wished they worked there and cant.

 

[YourPilotFriend]

Well in the beginning, SWA was where you went if you couldn't get on with a legacy. Now they are the most selective and get the best candidates. That's why their FO's are real professionals, and the senior captains are a bunch of dopes.

 

[Tejas-Jet]

More to point: I'm frustrated with the consumer expectation that you can come to the airport looking like a filthy bum, punch out the agent, crap in the seat, get piss drunk, all for a $149 round trip ticket and still not be the least bit satisfied. Some seniors have to decide between heating the house or prescription drugs. Energy costs can skyrocket on pure speculation. You would think airline tickets would be the most obvious thing to let fluctuate with market forces! Nope. SWA wants to make it as close to free as possible.

OK...OK...now I know the cause of your frustration. But...what good does it do to, whine here? No matter how much you complain, SWA is not gonna change it's business plan to suit you. Thats why I said earlier...some are ready to compete...some eventually learn...and some never do...where are you?

You make all kinds of outrageous comments about people dressed like bums, drunk, etc. Honestly, I don't see it. Again, you have exaggerated in the past...no doubt, this is more of it. Those kinds of people fly on all the airlines...didn't a guy defecate on a 1st class serving cart a few years ago on some legacy airline? Didn't a popular preachers wife recently get into some kind of altercation with the F/A of another legacy airline? Happens on all the carriers...maybe even yours.

Geez...and here I thought your frustration was because you got tired of watching the NFL playoffs and hearing...

"This game is brought to you by Southwest Airlines, the Official Airline of the NFL and proud sponsor of Super Bowl XLI"

 

[mdf]

I have to agree with Tejas. I have only seen one instance where one of our pax was dressed badly. He had a T-Shirt on with the F-bomb on it. The Capt. saw it, pulled the guy aside, and politely said to find another shirt. I am not saying that it doesn't happen, because I guess it did on the tv show. I don't think it's at the level Flopgut thinks it is, or anyworse at any other airline.

 

[SWA/FO]

Well in the beginning, SWA was where you went if you couldn't get on with a legacy

kinda like A M E R I C A~ started. With a bunch of mitfits,,

 

[Flopgut]

OK, I didn't dream that whole TV show, did I? The one that showed everyone why prescription drugs are so necessary? That was a pretty sad commentary on airline life. Yes, every airline has some nutball customers...now! Now that the overall customer expectation is that airline tickets should be less than cab fare. We operate expensive equipment in a demanding environment, our cummulative level of safety is incredible and without equal. Yet, somehow we're supposed to do it continuosly cheaper?!

I fly Central and South America as a first choice. I come back and do a domestic pairing and I'm stunned at how customers act. You'll go there soon enough I guess, you're going to be thinking the same thing. Why in the he!! are we giving the US domestic traveler such a good deal?

 

[jonjuan]

We operate expensive equipment in a demanding environment, our cummulative level of safety is incredible and without equal. Yet, somehow we're supposed to do it continuosly cheaper?!

You should generously thank the aeronautical engineers at the manufacturers for your "cummulative level of safety." They have made your job easier, safer, and more "learnable" for the 500-hour wonder pilot from your favorite Delta Academy of Aviation. Bottom line is that a 50-year old airline captain going through his second messy divorce is more of a liability than the average 27-year old RJ captain.