You really are too far gone to accept the reality of the ALPA backroom network today. If you want o keep your delusions of grandeur I can not help you. All the while ALPA will continue to lose more of the hearts and minds of pilots daily. Again, I point to the failed Skywest organization as an perfect example. Not only in the loss but the stunning defeat for ALPA. It wasn't even close.
Translation: I never thought I had to work manage my career.. I just thought my career was mx free. Now that I am being called out and told to work to protect my own pay rates, work rules, 401k etc.. it doesn't sit well with me.. these are not my expectations.. I'd rather fight reality...
Now I will have to mention again why there is such low participation nowadays. Read the first paragraph RezO
At the end of the day it is still your career. What are you going to do? be mad or effective?
Yes, blame It on the membership again. Do you ever see a pattern here?
Who else should I blame your career on? Me?
Who would have known that we would be paying dues to an organization that really does not represent the best interests of the entire membership?
Agreed. With only 30% of the membership bothering to vote in career representation at ALPA LEC meetings, it is no wonder ALPA doesn't represent membership interests. I mean how can they..HOW can ALPA represent those who won't speak?
I know what you mean about statements and comments getting old. Do us all a favor and let somebody else do the volunteering with your general attitude. You may do good work but your attitude and placement of blame does far more damage than good by alienating those that cast a weary eye on your actual work.
The problem is MY career is effected by your angst and apathy... only we when are all effective can we effect change. ALPA isn't regulatory so we must have consensus... Did MLK jr effect change because he had gov't rule?
On May 17th in Wash DC there was a rally... only 100 ALPA pilots showed up. Where you there? And guess what.. the 100 pilots where the same ol' suspects.. the same ol elected pilots that keep showing and representing...why..cause the membership is too lazy to get off thier tails for thier OWN careers...
got it.... youre a chick.... does it matter?
Yet you still don’t realize why you have to actually do that do you? I think you need to take a good hard look in the mirror. The answer is there it is just you keep choosing to disregard it.
It is your career... your mirror...
You do. Along with the elected leadership.
Still can’t figure out why the low participation can you?
I know whay participation is low.. pilots expect others to do the work for them and they don't have the political skillset... so they create ALPA into an enemy so they can divert blame...
it is called refusal to accept responsiblity....
Where did I blame the volunteers?
Sitck with me .....this is going to get good...
You sound like a lunatic at times with your misnomers and hyperbole replies towards what people write. I think half the time pilots on here just ignore your continuing fulsome writings because the summary of your messages is you have nothing actually legitimate to say.
It is still your career.... your work rules, pay, etc... you can get involved or you can leave it up to guys like me...
Failure to particapte in politics allows those to be ruled by thier inferiors....
Now, I am sure you think that I am your inferior... but why would you let me make decsions for you.. what does that say about you...
Save the woe be to me speech and continued haranguing as I commend the volunteers.
You commend the volunteers? What about the political backstabbing and backroom network...? Which of course is compromised of ..... here it comes.....wait for it...... wait....
volunteers!!
So you commend the volunteers that make the organization that you despise... without the volunteers there is no organization.. you can't have it both ways.. either you commend or condem the organzation of volunteers...
My problem of ALPA today is the structure,
Good. What are you going to do about it?
political insulation of leadership and like it or not the insulting salaries paid to the brass. However volunteers like yourself, as I said before, do more harm than good with your attitude about participation, blame and fault.
And you do more harm that good with your apathy based on misinformation. No matter what.. at the end of the day..it is your career.
Somewhere you have intentionally blurred the lines of many with their feelings today towards ALPA. You always try to turn it into a problem with the membership and attacks on volunteers within the organization.
Ahhh.. today's feelings... not like the good ol' days of ALPA...
Me thinks that people think ALPA used to be great during the golden age of this career...
I would kick you right t in the nutsack for that comment you arrogant little toad however in reality one must consider the source.
Let's stay focused on your career... your pay rates, your work rules, your 401K, your health benefits.. do you really want a jerk like me to making decisions about your life... when you come to work, how much you get paid, when you will retire....
If not... then don't be a part of the 70% that refuses to particapte in thier careers... get involved... get educated, ask questions, volunteer,
Besides, I probably wouldn’t hit anything anyway as someone obviously eviscerated it long ago and nothing is left.
Focus! Your career is at stake. You can hate me or you can fight for our profession and your career...
The problem with your argument is that participation rates haven't "dropped off the cliff," because they have always been this low. During the old days, participation rates where exactly the same. A couple of years ago ALPA did a study of participation rates by going through the old archives to see if things had changed. The results? Participation rates are the same now as they've always been in the Association. There hasn't been any drop off, pilots are just lazy and apathetic and always have been.
here is a reference... qt....how does this fit into your ideals?
From Flying the Line, Vol. 1, page 227:
Inevitably, a new generation arrived made up of pilots less steeped in the past struggles and more content about the professional status ALPA had created for them. The new generation was also increasingly indifferent to ALPA and its administration. Pioneer pilots, by and large, paid close attention to ALPA affairs, and they couldn’t understand the lackadaisical attitude of the younger pilots, partically when it came to governance at the local level. By the late 1950s, many pilots simply took for granted that somebody else would do the hard work needed to sustain ALPA. While complacent pilots golfed or pursued second careers, a minority ran ALPA’s local affairs on each airline.
Although most of these individuals were dedicated to making ALPA work, on some airlines a few pilots used ALPA as a gimmick for personal aggrandizement. The indifference of the rank and file and the poor attendance at local council meetings meant that a minority on any airline could, with proper planning, seize control and eventually dominate the master executive council (MEC) itself. The danger was that a well-organized clique could speak for an indifferent majority of pilots.
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