Well, my Grandfather is dead and my Dad says that today’s ALPA is nothing but a shell of it’s former self. My father said that more than likely those in my Grandfather’s era are turning in their graves seeing what has become of the union today.
So the modern day airline industry doesn't match up to your grandpa's standards... DC-3 speeds can't keep up with a turbojet?
I have never thought the salaries paid to National officers were ever acceptable. I’m not sure what you’re trying to accomplish by putting words in my mouth about UAL and DAL as I never equated anything remotely to those cba’s.
Two things.... Only the President gets a salary, and that salary is determined by the ALPA BOD, which is elected by every ALPA pilot... usually, these elections have a minority particaption rate...of 30% so who do we really need to look at?
The other three ALPA officers get their airlines pay, basically....and they have taken deep cuts as you know.. including thier pension.
In addition, any expenes that the ALPA national officers incur (or any ALPA volunteer actually) are subject to IRS taxes. So, if I give up a day off and do ALPA work and I expense a lunch meal, then I have to pay tax on that expense as if it was income. Nice IRS...huh...
The problem is people like you focus on misinformation like ALPA national salaries... and you create a negative stigma that is based on false data... how productive is that?
You either missed the concept or understood it perfectly. Mostly assuredly both apply to you.
Right...
I know what you mean...
If I had the energy (or even really cared), I would search for some of Prater’s election propoganda where he did in fact state this. Either way, doesn’t really matter since the end result is the same. Another broken promise.
Sorry... nice try... the only thing Prater said was he'd take a pay cut if the BOD mandated it...
I address your energy state below...
The resolution would never survive the political hacking and backstabbing it would create. The ALPA triangle has become too politically insulated for real effective membership input to result in change.
Who would be doing the politcal hacking and backstabbing? Your fellow pilots at an LEC meeting? Aren't you really saying that this whole self reliance and responsibility for your own airline career is really a bit too troublesome...or that you don't have the energy? The fact is there are some really cool sit coms on TV that you'd rather watch.. or maybe something else?
Typical response but I commend you for at least toning it down from your usual "it's the memberships fault". Change also starts from the leadership.
Nice try again... dump it on the leadership.... that way you won't have to accept responsbility for
your career. You won't have to hone your political skill to deal with your political career.
Who really wonders if they will be politically effective in thier career while learning how to fly? Who would have known that once you got the job that you have to work to keep it and to make it better.
I’m not sure if it has sunk into guys like you that your continued rhetoric has alienated a lot of people towards the union.
I am not sure if it has sunk into you membership people that it is
YOUR career. Quit dumping all the repsonsbility of
YOUR career onto volunteers. We are trying to do the best we can but when you don't give a SH*T until it is too late and then complain that we didn't read your minds it gets real old..real quick.
Look man... regardless of how effective other people are in managing your career..at the end of the day you are going to have the benefits or liabilites of
YOUR career. The only course of action you have to do to manage your career is
CHOOSE to do so...
I am tired of defending the Association to its own members. I get more respect from Congressmen, the FAA and others than I do from my own people.
The recent dismal representation election at Skywest is a perfect example. It should also serve as a long overdue wake up call for ALPA.
Who needs to wake up?
The 5% attendence rate at LEC meetings?
The 30% voter particaption rate in LEC elctions?
The 30% particaption rate in the AGE 60 survey.
Sorry.. but membership involvement is way to weak and low for you to try and attempt to blame the volunteer leadership. You mean with family and a full time flight schedule, I volunteer to make this profession better, the mebership does sqaut....and it is..... get this........are you ready...... here it comes...... its.......MY FAULT.... that your career doesn't meet YOUR expectations.....
Got it......
If you paid your G-pa and Dad for your ALPA education... I suggest you get your money back... and give it to ALPA-PAC...
