SWA to speed up Airtran integration.....article

[madjack]

Fletch,

You would have kept ur seat at SWA pay with SL9...and a fence in ATL for 10 years...a couple hundred malcontent ATL CPs f'd it up for all AAI pilots. Nice job

 

[PCL_128]

A thank you would suffice.

How about a fu*& you, instead?

 

[vixin]

How about a fu*& you, instead?
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You stay classy, SWAPA!

While I dont agree with what Bill N is saying. You may want to take your own advice. Your lack of class shows every time you type. Humvee on the other hand seems to take things in stride.

 

[Jim]

GL,
Yes. There was a path to arbitration in the event an agreement was not met.

In this case an agreement was reached and ratified so arbitration never came into play.

Everyone on this board knows that this statement is pure BS. SWA management put a gun to the Air Tran pilots head and said sign or you're dead. Even my die=hard kool-aid drinking SWA pilot friends will readily admit this.

Fletch,
You could just say thank you for the raise rather than being a cry baby. Just saying.

You won the lottery and now you want more. Unbelievable.

Money is not everything and it is a matter of perspective. Obviously many AT pilots don't feel this way and I wouldn't if I was in their shoes.

 

[Lear70]

Everyone on this board knows that this statement is pure BS. SWA management put a gun to the Air Tran pilots head and said sign or you're dead. Even my die=hard kool-aid drinking SWA pilot friends will readily admit this.

Money is not everything and it is a matter of perspective. Obviously many AT pilots don't feel this way and I wouldn't if I was in their shoes.

Absolutely true. There are quite a few of us bypassing the transition to SWA as long as we possibly can for this exact reason.

You can't match our Quality of Life over there, at least not while at work, and many of us don't NEED the money. Will it be nice eventually? Sure. Is it a "lottery ticket"? Not by a long shot. Not going back to nearly the bottom of the F/O seniority pile from nearly the top, with the resultant COMPLETE loss in bidding power that comes with it, no matter WHAT the pay increase is.

We understand you guys are proud of what you built, just like WE are proud of what WE built. We understand you didn't want to buy our company; after the fact, many of us wish we'd never been bought. But all this is water under the bridge, and continuing to pull the "you won the lottery so just shut up and say thank you" card isn't going to help you win your arguments.

You guys feel one way. We feel another. That's the ONLY, REAL truth that can be said. So why continue to run the one-liners out there that pi$$ everyone off?

Hope everyone has a safe, fun, and Happy New Year! We're going out to Nashville Steak and Oyster, having one hell of a good meal, then partying with friends watching the Guitar (music note now, what the heck is that about?) drop at midnight, try to forget the Dallas game last night (Tony Romo turnovers are what's for breakfast), and start the New Year fresh, focusing on the important things in life that I have the power to affect (and this ain't it, that ship has sailed).

Stay thirsty, my friends! :beer:

 

[frostyboy]

I will take QOL over money any day of the week! Winning the lottery would be great, but how can you compare SWA to winning millions and never having to work again?

 

[Bill Nelson]

This job is worth millions and millions. You do have to get off the couch and work for it but despite popular belief, the Democrats can't give away enough to support a culture of worthlessness that seems prevalent these days. You are going to need to work. If that doesn't suit you then SWA isn't going to work out for you.

 

[frostyboy]

This job is worth millions and millions. You do have to get off the couch and work for it but despite popular belief, the Democrats can't give away enough to support a culture of worthlessness that seems prevalent these days. You are going to need to work. If that doesn't suit you then SWA isn't going to work out for you.

So it's not like winning the lotto. I have no problem working, and would love to work for SWA, but I hardly consider it winning the lotto.

 

[PCL_128]

This job is worth millions and millions.

A job at AirTran was worth millions, as well. Despite what your momma told you, you aren't special.

 

[redflyer65]

Hey guys...if its really not about the money, then just drop most of your flying when you transition over. Basically just drop down to AAI pay. So some will be at the 4yr seniority making 6yr longevity pay at SW. So by dropping at a higher patackle you shouldn't have to work much at all. Just a thought...if its not about the money.

 

[freightdogfred]

Hey guys...if its really not about the money, then just drop most of your flying when you transition over. Basically just drop down to AAI pay. So some will be at the 4yr seniority making 6yr longevity pay at SW. So by dropping at a higher patackle you shouldn't have to work much at all. Just a thought...if its not about the money.

Thought you couldn't drop trips there....are you allowed to drop trips off your line?

 

[redflyer65]

A job at AirTran was worth millions, as well. Despite what your momma told you, you aren't special.

You think your contact was really that stellar PCL?

 

[redflyer65]

Trip trade give away. Thats the only place I pick up.

 

[PCL_128]

Hey guys...if its really not about the money, then just drop most of your flying when you transition over.

Can't. Your pathetic work rules don't allow for straight dropping of trips. You have to have someone to take it off your hands. And since we'll all be junior, we'll have the crappiest trips that no one will want to take.

 

[PCL_128]

You think your contact was really that stellar PCL?

It's just a matter of math. A career at AirTran was "worth millions," as Nelson said.

But yes, I would rather have my contract than yours. I think it has a much better balance of pay and work rules. Especially since I'm likely to be stuck on reserve, with your non-existent rules for assigning of flying. Again, it's not all about the money to me.