SWA/FL Codeshare

[Lear70]

SUCKS TO BE YOU.....East Texas ain't that bad. You will fit in quit well, you know what they say...Notin bit queers and steers, so I take it you don't have a tail and horns

And when you can't argue the facts, the personal attacks come out.

Good ole' FlightInfo...

I'll be just fine. Dropping as many trips as possible to still pay the bills and just enjoying my life outside work. I only work 6 days this month and draw 76 hrs of credit; pretty sweet deal. Soaking it up while I can and hoping a base pops up in BNA. Would be nice to sit reserve from home if I have to sit reserve.

I'll always find my happy place eventually. If people could identify with how the deal affected the AAI pilots and SINCERELY say "Sorry, that sucks, but we've got a good airline and hopefully you'll enjoy being here", we'd quit arguing over this stuff and just move on, rather than challenging the truth of what happened.

Be gracious winners. You can do it.

 

[Ty Webb]

Hey,

It's all water under the bridge at this point, but I'd be glad to lay out ever difference between Pay and QOL between both carriers if you'd like.

I appreciate the offer, Red, but I don't think it will make any difference; there are no direct comparisons. . . . If you live in base, you can't appreciate what is important to a commuter. And, if you are still on your first wife, the money isn't as important as when you're on your third, or so I hear.

Sorry about the "stupid" comment, probably uncalled for, but the only thing more aggravating than losing something is to to lose it to someone who doesn't appreciate what it is they are getting- we can probably all agree on that.

Ty

 

[Tripower455]

Sorry about the "stupid" comment, probably uncalled for, but the only thing more aggravating than losing something is to to lose it to someone who doesn't appreciate what it is they are getting- we can probably all agree on that.

Ty

Oh, the irony........


Talk to some of our MCO FOs and see if they think they "won" anything out of this deal.

Plenty of misery on this side of the fence.....

 

[fletch717]

Oh, the irony........


Talk to some of our MCO FOs and see if they think they "won" anything out of this deal.

Plenty of misery on this side of the fence.....

That's what happens when you make EVERYBODY at AT an FO. You did the best you could to staple us,now you have to deal with the mess you created. Had there been a fair intergration this would not have harmed so many.

 

[Tripower455]

That's what happens when you make EVERYBODY at AT an FO. You did the best you could to staple us,now you have to deal with the mess you created. Had there been a fair intergration this would not have harmed so many.

I had nothing WHATSOEVER to do with this mess.... If it were up to me, we never would've bought you in the first place. My hands are clean.

Your MEC, on the other hand, gave away all of your Capt seats AND pay parity from day one.

As for the rest.... Many of our guys were HARMED, permanently, by this mess.

 

[Lear70]

Your MEC, on the other hand, gave away all of your Capt seats AND pay parity from day one.

Incorrect. We protected our 717 Captain seats, and Southwest management REFUSED to give us pay parity. We certainly didn't "give away" pay parity, unless you're referring to voting down the first Agreement...?

As for the rest.... Many of our guys were HARMED, permanently, by this mess.

Au contraire, mon frer. Refer back to a post by one of your other coworkers who correctly stated that by the end of their careers, every one of your pilots will have either the same retirement position or HIGHER than they would have from a relative bidding position of a stand-alone Southwest.

Not to mention, ALL of your F/O's will upgrade within the same time, OR SOONER, than they were scheduled to with known deliveries AND Classic retirements pre-merger.

The harm isn't permanent. Not by a long shot.

Do some of your F/O's lose now? Yes, but their OSW coworkers are upgrading sooner into OUR Captain seats. So basically, your senior F/O's are profiting at the expense of your junior F/O's getting bumped from their base and our CA's getting bumped from their seat.

Within a few years, those F/O's will get their base back, and will actually upgrade sooner due to the 737's we're bringing with all our stapled F/O's. It's just simple math.

The only OSW who can claim "permanent" harm do so with the theoretical departure of the Classics without replacement aircraft, which we DON'T KNOW at this point and which would require MASSIVE shrinkage of the airline, something SWA management has said they're not interested in, so it's a bit of a stretch to go there.

No SW pilot is PERMANENTLY harmed.

 

[humveedriver]

Both groups have a basic undertanding of the others pre-merger position. And I think most respect those positions. But at the end of the day, neither side really cares about what the other had or didn't have. That is why there is absolutely no point in discussing the SLI agreement anymore.

 

[PCL_128]

Be gracious winners. You can do it.

No, they really can't.

 

[Dash Power]

Both groups have a basic undertanding of the others pre-merger position. And I think most respect those positions. But at the end of the day, neither side really cares about what the other had or didn't have. That is why there is absolutely no point in discussing the SLI agreement anymore.

Absolutely no point. It is what it is.

Neither side apparently wanted SWA to purchase AT. And both sides approved the SLI by 83%.

Just time to move on and accept the things you can control as well as things you can not.

 

[General Lee]

Absolutely no point. It is what it is.

Neither side apparently wanted SWA to purchase AT. And both sides approved the SLI by 83%.

Just time to move on and accept the things you can control as well as things you can not.

Thanks Hugo Chavez! The election in Venezuela was FAIR...... What an idiot. You still think 83% of the votes from the AT pilots were with smiles on their faces? IDIOT. That will be remembered by all of the AT pilots until they retire at SWA. Great!


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Sy-bill]

Absolutely no point. It is what it is.

Neither side apparently wanted SWA to purchase AT. And both sides approved the SLI by 83%.

Just time to move on and accept the things you can control as well as things you can not.

Spot on.

Curiously only an outsider seems to be the angriest one of all.

 

[scoreboardII]

whew, glad thats over till we do it again in another three weeks.

 

[Ky.BrownBourbn]

whew, glad thats over till we do it again in another three weeks.

It sounds like "La Genitalia's" STD's, it raises it's ugly head every few weeks and then goes away, only for her to continue to spread that crap!

Stay away from "La Genitalia", she and her stuff are Bad News!!!

Later,
KBB

 

[say again]

TYou still think 83% of the votes from the AT pilots were with smiles on their faces? IDIOT.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Smiles or not, they still voted for it. As for the 717 CA fiasco, if what is being said is true, then that is just plain f@#ked up. I have no dog in this fight as I don't work for either company, but I'm still interested in all mergers as it may affect future mergers. I just wish the best of luck to both sides!!

 

[Tripower455]

Incorrect. We protected our 717 Captain seats, and Southwest management REFUSED to give us pay parity. We certainly didn't "give away" pay parity, unless you're referring to voting down the first Agreement...?



Au contraire, mon frer. Refer back to a post by one of your other coworkers who correctly stated that by the end of their careers, every one of your pilots will have either the same retirement position or HIGHER than they would have from a relative bidding position of a stand-alone Southwest.

Not to mention, ALL of your F/O's will upgrade within the same time, OR SOONER, than they were scheduled to with known deliveries AND Classic retirements pre-merger.

The harm isn't permanent. Not by a long shot.

Do some of your F/O's lose now? Yes, but their OSW coworkers are upgrading sooner into OUR Captain seats. So basically, your senior F/O's are profiting at the expense of your junior F/O's getting bumped from their base and our CA's getting bumped from their seat.

Within a few years, those F/O's will get their base back, and will actually upgrade sooner due to the 737's we're bringing with all our stapled F/O's. It's just simple math.

The only OSW who can claim "permanent" harm do so with the theoretical departure of the Classics without replacement aircraft, which we DON'T KNOW at this point and which would require MASSIVE shrinkage of the airline, something SWA management has said they're not interested in, so it's a bit of a stretch to go there.

No SW pilot is PERMANENTLY harmed.

You're right, what was I thinking? This acquisition is a GREAT deal for EVERY SW guy! Thanks!