Southern Air

[Dream2fly]

Can we just get along!

Come on, Let's just work together.
We can make a better airline by trying to stick together.
We pilots are a bunch of babies.
We never stop complaining.
We forget about the past.
We just want more.
And more!!!

 

[dakotaHC8]

The seniorty issue is moot whether we agree or disagree.

How about you just say "Thank you" for the $10000, new scheduler, new airplanes, etc..

No...

Because I've been around the block long enough to know that those things pale in comparison to making sure you get your rightful place on the senority list.

And I'm betting you have too, so don't patronize me.

 

[dutch747]

Come on, Let's just work together.
We can make a better airline by trying to stick together.
We pilots are a bunch of babies.
We never stop complaining.
We forget about the past.
We just want more.
And more!!!

Don't worry about the talk. There's just want or two pencil d!cks causing trouble. You won't have to look far to figure out who I'm talking about either.^^^

 

[C-141/C-5]

Dakota just to clear things up... Cargo360 established our DOH dates way before any mention of a merger with SA. DOH was not determined by the date of a job offer it was determined by the date you accepted the job offer with a signature. There was never a hiring pool. The reason DOH was done this way was to eliminate age discrimination. If you actually looked at the original list you would see that there were classes with individuals in the same class with dates that varied by up to a week. This is because they did not accept employment right away and was penalized with a lower DOH date. I'm under the impression that SA thinks C360 was changing their DOH dates for increased seniority at SA, but that is absolutely false.

 

[skeeter666]

I just talked to SAI and they still require a training bond........

 

[skeeter666]

can anyone give me an idea on the schedule, pros and cons of this company.... how about the interview? Thanks-

 

[pilotbrain]

which company? and if your talking about sai, know one knows.. most likely 20 on 10 off.

 

[pilotbrain]

quote:: I just talked to SAI and they still require a training bond........

they are saying that in the interview, but haven't made anyone sign one yet. I have a friend that is in ground school over there now. hope this helps

 

[skeeter666]

Sorry, I meant Southern air inc. Thanks for the info, does anyone know about the interview? I need to call them back this afternoon to schedule an interview next week. I am not sure about that training bond. I did complere one, and got super abused one time. Thanks again- Skeeter

 

[coolarrow]

What is the pay like?

 

[dakotaHC8]

Dakota just to clear things up... Cargo360 established our DOH dates way before any mention of a merger with SA. DOH was not determined by the date of a job offer it was determined by the date you accepted the job offer with a signature. There was never a hiring pool. The reason DOH was done this way was to eliminate age discrimination. If you actually looked at the original list you would see that there were classes with individuals in the same class with dates that varied by up to a week. This is because they did not accept employment right away and was penalized with a lower DOH date. I'm under the impression that SA thinks C360 was changing their DOH dates for increased seniority at SA, but that is absolutely false.

How you established your senority for your own purposes is unimportant to this issue, since our pilot group was good enough to give you a date of hire merger with our list, and it is only right and fair that you use the same method we (and every other airline I know of) use to determine DOH.

But fair is not the issue here. What mattered most to Southern is to entice as many of your Captains as possible. And as such, accepting this strange and unconventional manner to determine the date of hire was pushed through, to place a nnumber of your more senior people ahead of Southern Captains who had been flying the line well before your company's first proving run.

So just count yourself lucky that this senority leap was "thrown in" with the rest of the incentives, and stop trying to convince anyone, that it was anything else.

Blue Skies.

 

[C-141/C-5]

The incentves were negotiated by Cargo360 management and they felt it was only fair for SA guys to get it also, which I totally agree with. Mr Neff told our CEO and Oak Hill that it was way too much to give the pilots, but our CEO made sure they were kept in tact.

SA can do whatever they want to do with the seniority integration, but don't call it DOH because it's not.

For the record I'm not making the cross over, but I wish both groups the best. I have been just trying to make the point that C360 has done a lot for the SA group and it would of been classy to follow DOH like it was originally advertised.

Fly Safe

 

[On Your Six]

The incentves were negotiated by Cargo360 management and they felt it was only fair for SA guys to get it also, which I totally agree with. Mr Neff told our CEO and Oak Hill that it was way too much to give the pilots, but our CEO made sure they were kept in tact.

SA can do whatever they want to do with the seniority integration, but don't call it DOH because it's not.

For the record I'm not making the cross over, but I wish both groups the best. I have been just trying to make the point that C360 has done a lot for the SA group and it would of been classy to follow DOH like it was originally advertised.

Fly Safe

With a background like yours I would apply to Delta ASAP! Delta likes MAC pilots.