SkyWest Pay Proposal Passes

[CoATP]

Newsflash starting Jan 2007 we fly the planes for different rates. 5% more than the 50 seater rate. How about taking the time to educate yourself instead of spouting off the same, tired rhetoric. SkyWest pilots no longer have a thing to be embarrassed about.

Let me see ...hmmmm 70 seats vs 50 seats why yes that's a 5% increase in capacity/ responsibility for a 5% increase in pay. Oh wait perhaps it's just fuzzy math [in class I was listening to my ipod] It must be the 90 seaters that are 5% larger .... No that doesn't work either. Perhaps if 5% of the pilots got a 5% increase that would make it a 25% increase all one has to do is leave out some zeroes. I do wish some zeros were left out (pilots not numbers)

 

[Lazy8]

It's not a start, it's a steamy pile...We don't have a "great negotiating table right now"???? You mean being number 20 in the world in operating income out of all carriers including freight isn't good enough for a COLA that at least matches inflation??? We actually had higher operating income last year than UPS, and they got a 40% increase!!! WAKE UP!!!!!!!

No, you don't have a great negioting table right now. No union = no negotiations (regardless of the financial standings). Take your own advice and "wake up". If SkyWest had voted this payraise down then that would have been the end of it ~ no negotiations ~ just like the previous payraise that was voted down.

In a nutshell, UPS got a 40% payraise because they have a strong union, united pilot group, and excellent company earnings. SkyWest has a management funded union(kind of defeats the purpose wouldn't you say?), a divided pilot group, and excellent company earnings. Like I said... Apples to oranges...

 

[80for80]

It's not a start, it's a steamy pile...We don't have a "great negotiating table right now"???? You mean being number 20 in the world in operating income out of all carriers including freight isn't good enough for a COLA that at least matches inflation??? We actually had higher operating income last year than UPS, and they got a 40% increase!!! WAKE UP!!!!!!!

Gee. I must have missed something. I didn't realize that Skywest had a $1 BILLION dollar income last year.

 

[ArcticFlier]

For those that say that voting ALPA is tantamount to a 2% pay cut......answer me this:

How is buying something you can benefit from, taking a pay cut?



AF

 

[goodpilotithink]

Well, the good news is:
1. SAPA can negotiate improvements at ANY TIME.
2. The Company policy is to "review" pay on an annual basis
3. Atleast as of now the company can still negotiate directly with their pilots, instead of someone in Washingon D.C. (Herndon)

hahahahahahahah, lol lol lol

 

[HelloNewman]

For those that say that voting ALPA is tantamount to a 2% pay cut......answer me this:

How is buying something you can benefit from, taking a pay cut?



AF

:bawling: :crying: :bawling: :crying: sorry ALPA isn't going to be your knight and shining armor anytime soon. It's not buying something. I do not want them and a lot of other people do not want them, therefore it is a paycut for at least us. Sorry the majority will probably never vote for ALPA. 30% of our pilots didn't even vote on the pay proposal. You can take comfort in the fact that we now get paid more to fly the 700/900

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Newsflash starting Jan 2007 we fly the planes for different rates. 5% more than the 50 seater rate. How about taking the time to educate yourself instead of spouting off the same, tired rhetoric. SkyWest pilots no longer have a thing to be embarrassed about.

Yes we do, for as long as you are on the senority list, hopefully you will not get through the probation interview.
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[NoBathroom]

I am proud to say that I voted NO on the pay proposal. Although I am on the EMB now, but having flown the jet, I know that it is not a split pay scale. It is an override. A split pay scale would have different hourly rates for each plane. Also, SGU is going to adjust block times starting January 1st. How convenient...

 

[HelloNewman]

Yes we do, for as long as you are on the senority list, hopefully you will not get through the probation interview.
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Sorry already passed the probie interview. I don't see why I would fail that interview when my viewpoint is in the majority. Viewpoints on pay have nothing to do with the probationary evaluation anyway. Typical response, wanting someone who has imagination and disagrees with you to fail. Sorry I not only survived my first year, now I am thriving.

 

[Nightrain_080]

Sad

Bohica bend override is not a split rate. Our current SAPA pres is spewing the same Snake-Oil-salesman pitch he was given by B.H.

"Bottom line split the rate" blah blah blah.

Take the "Zoltar" QOL improvements over this snake override. QOL would be meaningful to all of the Pilots. Heaven forbid we band together and stop focusing on spiltting the rates the wrong way.

ALPA, Yes I know its not the answer to all problems, but it's still an option.

Within MINUTES our policy manual is changed.

MANAGEMENT since November 2006

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1. credit times to be adjusted Jan. 1st
2. Another round of what constitues cancellation pay. (interpretted by B.H.)
3. Mandatory qualification for the 900 "LMAO"

AND WE THOUGHT WE WERE OVER A BARREL AFTER UPA FAILED!

 

[ArcticFlier]

:bawling: :crying: :bawling: :crying: sorry ALPA isn't going to be your knight and shining armor anytime soon. It's not buying something. I do not want them and a lot of other people do not want them, therefore it is a paycut for at least us. Sorry the majority will probably never vote for ALPA. 30% of our pilots didn't even vote on the pay proposal. You can take comfort in the fact that we now get paid more to fly the 700/900

Ok......it's 'knight in shining armour'..........nor did I say it ever would be...................you know what they say about assumptions..........well, maybe you don't..........but I digress...........

It is buying something if you would like to have the backing of ALPA ie. legal, medical, CBA, etc.. Sort of like buying insurance for your home or car. You don't want the accident or watch your house burn down, but you insure yourself against it. Out of curiosity, did/would you willingly buy in if you were at an ALPA carrier?


You say a lot of other people don't want representation. A lot do as well, so we'll see.

You think we'll get paid more to fly the -7/900, and this pilot group probably will (unless you're based in a place like FAT.........no -7/900's, but don't expect an appreciable difference...............too many flaming hoops to jump through), but don't mistake it for a split. It ain't. It's an override, and there is a quantifiable difference. Can you see the differentiation?


AF

 

[FlySacto]

Ok......it's 'knight in shining armour'..........nor did I say it ever would be...................you know what they say about assumptions..........well, maybe you don't..........but I digress...........

It is buying something if you would like to have the backing of ALPA ie. legal, medical, CBA, etc.. Sort of like buying insurance for your home or car. You don't want the accident or watch your house burn down, but you insure yourself against it. Out of curiosity, did/would you willingly buy in if you were at an ALPA carrier?
AF

I don't think he will/would. I'd place bets though that he'll be on a SCAB list one day. See below:

I thank ALPA for all the things they have done however I still choose not to give them my money. That is my right. Until I am forced to I will not give them my money. Even when I am forced to I will still not join the union. Did you know that during a senority integration ALPA will not represent you? Thats right the MEC can force a merger fund at any time. You pay all those dues to alpa and they leave you flopping in the wind when merger time comes around. I sure will not put up with any extra forced assesment fees. You should ask a member of the OC about merger funds and see what they say. Any MEC can impose a merger fund any time they see fit. If you do not join the union you don't have to pay the assesments they force on the pilot group.

 

[Little Mojito]

I hardly ever post, as I merely come here for some laughs. But I have to ask: Why are all you OO pilots that constantly moan and groan on this board still working at OO? It would seem to me that If you are so unhappy/upset with the situation you would find another job. Shouldn't be too hard, seeing as how all you do is complain about how bad the pay is. It is beyond me to think that any of you accepted a position at OO with the intent of making that your career airline. On the other hand, if you did go to OO with that intent, then you should have researched a little better. I guess what I'm saying is that if you guys put as much effort into "moving on/getting on with another airline" as you do into your constant complaining, you might have a different job by now; and something knew to complain about. Bottom line: No one is holding a gun to your head...LEAVE. But whatever you do, stop with all the complaining.

 

[Gr82Aviate]

Gee. I must have missed something. I didn't realize that Skywest had a $1 BILLION dollar income last year.

Hey Ho-jets moron, look it up on page 37 of the July 2006 issue of Air Transport World... You'll see that SKYW is above UPS in net profit, read it for yourself, or have someone smarter than you read it to you!

 

[Gr82Aviate]

I hardly ever post, as I merely come here for some laughs. But I have to ask: Why are all you OO pilots that constantly moan and groan on this board still working at OO? It would seem to me that If you are so unhappy/upset with the situation you would find another job. Shouldn't be too hard, seeing as how all you do is complain about how bad the pay is. It is beyond me to think that any of you accepted a position at OO with the intent of making that your career airline. On the other hand, if you did go to OO with that intent, then you should have researched a little better. I guess what I'm saying is that if you guys put as much effort into "moving on/getting on with another airline" as you do into your constant complaining, you might have a different job by now; and something knew to complain about. Bottom line: No one is holding a gun to your head...LEAVE. But whatever you do, stop with all the complaining.

First of all, maybe some of us would like to make this a better place and like where we are based. Secondly, some of us weren't hired by SKYW but our previous employer was purchased by Skyw...and last but not least, you don't have to keep reading the Skyw threads if you don't like them...LEAVE!