SkyWest Pay Proposal Passes

[BoilerUP]

CHQ and MESA both are now setup for failure, we have the XJT contract to reference for the 135/140/145, but when it comes to the 70 seat i thnk we are gonna eat crow. Yay for more downward presssure!

Someplace to start..

145/CRJ rates 5% higher than they are now. No 135/140 offset.
170/CR7 rates 7% higher than they are now.
175/CR9 rates 5% higher than they are now.
All FO pay tied to 60% of CA pay.
3.5:1 trip rig
2:1 duty rig
4hr min day credit
12 days off per month (line & rsv)
100% DH & CNX pay
Tougher scheduling language re: paring & PBS line construction
1.5x opentime premium
4 year duration
1.80 perdiem, up a dime every year for duration
3% COLA every year for duration
4.5% COLA after end of contract (if no new CBA reached)

Just a few unsolicited ideas, I'm sure your pilot group & EB have plenty in mind. Good luck!:beer:

 

[FlyboyPhil]

Leave early.. arrive on time.. best payraise you will ever give yourself.. and.. it saves the company money on gas.. so they can't complain!

Option A) "split" payrates on CRJs, exclude Dash 8-400 from the turboprop payscale, get a little extra money for the "planes of the future" while screwing the Brasilia pilots and the newhires.
Option B) Thumb your nose at SGU by voting NO, no raises for anyone, no "split" payscales, flying the Q-400 for 30 seat rates, wait for another year while SGU rearranges the same money some other way


With great choices like these it's no wonder 30% of the pilots didn't bother to vote.

 

[Smoked Toilet]

Now ALPA will only cost 1%. What a deal.

 

[The Drizzle]

Just a few unsolicited ideas, I'm sure your pilot group & EB have plenty in mind. Good luck!:beer:

believe me, we have ideas. what will come of them in this environment? i bet we get a nice, long, protracted contract bargaining a la ASA with no real improvements, and will continue to be the "whores"

 

[goahead]

Nope I think Mesa and RAH will get a good contract, RAH 70 seat pay next year will be more than ours at ASA, or so I heard. The difference between these three is that RAH and I think the majority of Mesa have balls in their pants and a union that will not settle for less than their pilots are worth. Mesa will be interesting to watch b/c the boss is a dipshi_t and only cares about him and his corporation. RAH seems to have their shi_t together in my eyes, at least ton's more than all the FNG guys at SKYW that still think they'll be at a Fed Ex or UPS in three years.

 

[NWaviator]

When will htis pay scale start and when can we get the actual pay per hour?

 

[samballs]

Im unclear as to why anyone would vote no for a raise? I understand the EMB guys didnt get anything, but the higher pay aircraft usually does go senior in most airlines so thats not an arguement.

Because you idiot these rates are no bid deal. Now all the people negotiating new contracts will get your piece of crap put in front of them and have a huge uphill battle to get what they have now. And as far as CHQ and MAG screaming about this contract, thats exactly how everyone else felt when you girls voted in your current contract. When us at OH finish our contract, concessions thanks to your crap, you girls are gonna be over paid, your girls next contract will probaly be lower pay with better work rules. Thanks for the reach around you P^ssys.

 

[Arrow11]

Nope I think Mesa and RAH will get a good contract, RAH 70 seat pay next year will be more than ours at ASA, or so I heard. The difference between these three is that RAH and I think the majority of Mesa have balls in their pants and a union that will not settle for less than their pilots are worth. Mesa will be interesting to watch b/c the boss is a dipshi_t and only cares about him and his corporation. RAH seems to have their shi_t together in my eyes, at least ton's more than all the FNG guys at SKYW that still think they'll be at a Fed Ex or UPS in three years.

Bwaahahhhhaaa

 

[The Drizzle]

thats exactly how everyone else felt when you girls voted in your current contract.

I'm sorry that we had a real alter ego to defeat. I'm sure you guys had that experience.......oh wait.

 

[Ben Dover]

Well, the good news is:
1. SAPA can negotiate improvements at ANY TIME.
2. The Company policy is to "review" pay on an annual basis
3. Atleast as of now the company can still negotiate directly with their pilots, instead of someone in Washingon D.C. (Herndon)

 

[capt. megadeth]

Now what the hell is everyone gonna bitch about now?????????????????

The fact that 975 pilots sold all the Bro guys and gals down the river. Thanks you selfish F***s!

I can't wait until the RJ Benedict Arnold's see their paycheck difference. I got a $20K raise a few months back and it amounts to about $200 a paycheck....I can't imagine what 1% of Skywest RJ rates will be. Sold your soul for a few bucks! Pathetic!

 

[capt. megadeth]

I understand the EMB guys didnt get anything, but the higher pay aircraft usually does go senior in most airlines so thats not an arguement.

Undoubtedly one of the dumbest posts (except for all of mine) I have seen on this site.

 

[capt. megadeth]

Well, the good news is:
1. SAPA can negotiate improvements at ANY TIME.
2. The Company policy is to "review" pay on an annual basis
3. Atleast as of now the company can still negotiate directly with their pilots, instead of someone in Washingon D.C. (Herndon)

Ok, the 2nd dumbest post I have seen on FI in a day!


ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do me a favor, put down the crackpipe man! I hope you are being sarcastic.

If I see one of those SAPA fools, I will give them a piece of my mind. I hope they never show up at UPS.

 

[HelloNewman]

So no override for reserves or lineholders that don't hit 75 hours of block?
Is there a split rate for FOs in the 70/90?

Reserves will get the over ride for any time they flew the 700/900 and go over the 75 hour mark. Line holders I believe will get the over ride for any amount of time they actually fly the 700/900. There is a split rate for the FOs. Certainly not the best deal however it's something to tide us over til next year.

 

[MarineGrunt]

Ok, the 2nd dumbest post I have seen on FI in a day!


ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do me a favor, put down the crackpipe man!

If I see one of those SAPA fools, I will give them a piece of my mind. I hope they never show up at UPS.

Easy there mega. A lot of SAPA folk out there are good guys and gals trying to do everything they can for the pilot group. But unfortunately, the only leverage they have after they say "please" is to say "pretty please." I think efforts should be concentrated on the ALPA drive rather than mother effing eachother. Hopefully this will be the last straw. It was for me.

 

[samballs]

Reserves will get the over ride for any time they flew the 700/900 and go over the 75 hour mark. Line holders I believe will get the over ride for any amount of time they actually fly the 700/900. There is a split rate for the FOs. Certainly not the best deal however it's something to tide us over til next year.

Tide us over till next year. Your the reason life sucks in the regionals.....

 

[HelloNewman]

This is the payscale I came up with from the package I saw- The 70/90 goes up 1% every year til 2010. Over ride is 5% of the RJ base rate, 6% in 2008, 7% in 2009, 8% in 2010.

Yrs|RJ Cpt|70/90|RJ FO |70/90|
1 $56.59 $59.42 $19.25 $20.21
2 $58.35 $61.27 $34.89 $36.63
3 $60.14 $63.14 $35.97 $37.76
4 $62.01 $65.11 $37.08 $38.93
5 $63.92 $67.12 $38.22 $40.13
6 $65.90 $69.20 $39.41 $41.38
7 $67.94 $71.34 $40.63 $42.66
8 $70.04 $73.55 $40.63 $42.66
9 $72.20 $75.82
10 $74.45 $78.17
11 $76.74 $80.58
12 $79.11 $83.07
13 $81.57 $85.65
14 $84.08 $88.29
15 $86.69 $91.02
16 $89.28 $93.75
17 $91.96 $96.56
18 $93.80 $98.49

 

[Ben Dover]

Ok, the 2nd dumbest post I have seen on FI in a day!


ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do me a favor, put down the crackpipe man! I hope you are being sarcastic.

If I see one of those SAPA fools, I will give them a piece of my mind. I hope they never show up at UPS.

Sarcasm is sneering, jesting, or mocking a person, situation or thing. It is strongly associated with irony, with some definitions classifying it as a type of verbal irony intended to insult or wound[1] -- stating the opposite of the intended meaning, e.g. using "that's amazing" to mean "that's awful". It is used in a humorous manner, often harshly, and is expressed through vocal intonations such as over-emphasizing the actual statement or particular words. Use of sarcasm is sometimes viewed as an expression of concealed anger[2]

 

[HelloNewman]

The fact that 975 pilots sold all the Bro guys and gals down the river. Thanks you selfish F***s!

I can't wait until the RJ Benedict Arnold's see their paycheck difference. I got a $20K raise a few months back and it amounts to about $200 a paycheck....I can't imagine what 1% of Skywest RJ rates will be. Sold your soul for a few bucks! Pathetic!

Honest question, if you are at UPS now why does this concern you so much?

 

[capt. megadeth]

Honest question, if you are at UPS now why does this concern you so much?

Fiancee is at Skywest and some friends too.

BTW, $0.45 an hour wouldn't make or break us but it's the principle of the matter, know what I mean?