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Cactusboy, AWA was the first airline to apply and receive money from the ATSB after 9/11, 350 million dollars, and still owed 300 million in 2005..this money ultimately save the Airline.


But they had enough to supposedly pay the USAir payroll even before the merger was complete, thus saving their airline, which would have been gone first. They had enough credit to "mortgage" their airline to save USAir. Tell us that isn't true....


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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Congratulations General.

You have once again succeeded at pitting work groups against each under under the transparent guise of your concern for the industry.

Please mind your own business instead of getting Some sick thrill of making people angry by using their livelihoods as a tool.
 
deleted... not worth it... I'll stick to the topic at hand.
 
Congratulations General.

You have once again succeeded at pitting work groups against each under under the transparent guise of your concern for the industry.

Please mind your own business instead of getting Some sick thrill of making people angry by using their livelihoods as a tool.

Most of us just ignore him anyway
 
Congratulations General.

You have once again succeeded at pitting work groups against each under under the transparent guise of your concern for the industry.

Please mind your own business instead of getting Some sick thrill of making people angry by using their livelihoods as a tool.

Come on Dash. I am allowed to give my opinion about important topics, and the NIC award is serious. Disregarding that binding award affects all of us. You sign up for it, you accept it, end of story. I have toned down my slams, but I can still opine, and this one is easy to do. Thanks for trying to look out for me, though.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
Come on Dash. I am allowed to give my opinion about important topics, and the NIC award is serious. Disregarding that binding award affects all of us. You sign up for it, you accept it, end of story. I have toned down my slams, but I can still opine, and this one is easy to do. Thanks for trying to look out for me, though.


Bye Bye---General Lee

The tally of your excessive posts speaks volumes of your social intellect. I really hope that there are no children in your home.
 
Most of us just ignore him anyway

Sounds like the Eastie Capts you fly with have successfully brainwashed you. Ignoring me doesn't take away the fact that they disregarded a binding award.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
The tally of your excessive posts speaks volumes of your social intellect. I really hope that there are no children in your home.

Classic response from someone who can't debate the facts. Try to go after the person, instead of trying to debate the issue. You will lose.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
General:

I love your post.....

"But they supposedly had enough to pay for the USAir payroll"..........

You speak of this as it is a fact yet say "supposedly".....and then you use that as the basis for the Nic.

AWA didn't mortgage anything. Wall Street bankrolled the merger.

What a piece of work you are. I sure hope you are out there "helping" young aviators pick the right airline.

Again....why is the West workforce flying 25% of the East ASM's?

A350
 
General:

I love your post.....

"But they supposedly had enough to pay for the USAir payroll"..........

You speak of this as it is a fact yet say "supposedly".....and then you use that as the basis for the Nic.

AWA didn't mortgage anything. Wall Street bankrolled the merger.

What a piece of work you are. I sure hope you are out there "helping" young aviators pick the right airline.

Again....why is the West workforce flying 25% of the East ASM's?

A350

I am glad you "LOVE" my posts. I say "supposedly" and "apparently" because I wasn't there in person. You obviously THINK you were, and that's wrong. You and the other EASTIE supporters are trying to dodge the fact that BOTH the East and West MECs agreed to Nicolau, and they, along with the company, signed on the bottom line. There is NO disputing that, hence why there is no "supposedly" attached to that. The facts don't lie, and instead you like to suppport a side that disregards a binding award. We all know it.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
General:

I love your post.....

"But they supposedly had enough to pay for the USAir payroll"..........

You speak of this as it is a fact yet say "supposedly".....and then you use that as the basis for the Nic.

AWA didn't mortgage anything. Wall Street bankrolled the merger.

What a piece of work you are. I sure hope you are out there "helping" young aviators pick the right airline.

Again....why is the West workforce flying 25% of the East ASM's?

A350

The west isn't flying 25 percent of the east's asm first of all. And if we were it is because the east and their inefficiencies have raised the casm of the west SIGNIFICALLY.

Not the mention that only 35 percent of the pilots single engine taxi. Strange since the west makes up 35 percent of the flights.
 
Classic response from someone who can't debate the facts. Try to go after the person, instead of trying to debate the issue. You will lose.


Bye Bye---General Lee

And your classic headfake trying to distract from the fact that the guy is not trying to debate any points but to express how antagonistic of a person you are.

General you are extremely successful at your true objective. And it is really a sick one at that. I do believe in Karma. Sometimes it takes a long time for it to come back around but you are in for a tough time one way or another. You simply can not get away with all the crap you create. It is impossible. I would not even want to be close to you when it finally takes hold.

I wish no ill will on anyone. But it certainly has a way of finding its way to those who deserve its wrath. The more you continue on this cruel path, the more it will come back around.
 
And your classic headfake trying to distract from the fact that the guy is not trying to debate any points but to express how antagonistic of a person you are.

General you are extremely successful at your true objective. And it is really a sick one at that. I do believe in Karma. Sometimes it takes a long time for it to come back around but you are in for a tough time one way or another. You simply can not get away with all the crap you create. It is impossible. I would not even want to be close to you when it finally takes hold.

I wish no ill will on anyone. But it certainly has a way of finding its way to those who deserve its wrath. The more you continue on this cruel path, the more it will come back around.

Word....
 
The tally of your excessive posts speaks volumes of your social intellect. I really hope that there are no children in your home.

And your classic headfake trying to distract from the fact that the guy is not trying to debate any points but to express how antagonistic of a person you are.

General you are extremely successful at your true objective. And it is really a sick one at that. I do believe in Karma. Sometimes it takes a long time for it to come back around but you are in for a tough time one way or another. You simply can not get away with all the crap you create. It is impossible. I would not even want to be close to you when it finally takes hold.

I wish no ill will on anyone. But it certainly has a way of finding its way to those who deserve its wrath. The more you continue on this cruel path, the more it will come back around.


Listen, I am sick of a lot of things in this industry, and treating one group poorly is probably the top, in the case of a merger. That didn't happen in the DL/NW merger. It DID happen in your merger, and the US merger. Karma happens when you do treat someone or some group poorly, and your group and the Easties are top candidates. Get off your soap box, you are part of the guilty group. Look in the mirror! I point out the flaws and hope they are not repeated. People who are a part of it usually want to brush it under the rug, and don't want to talk about it. I think they need to be talked about so the are avoided in the future. There are no slams here, rather the cold, hard truth. And I think YOU need to re-read your own last sentence in your above statement, and see if it relates to you.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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Karma, huh? Dash, you know your merger sure wasn't perfect, and the Easties did a bad thing by disregarding a binding award. The APA pointed out that they want the next one to follow the DL/NW way, which obviously was smoother, and more respectful between groups. When agreeing with Mack, realize your merger and how it went down was one the APA does NOT want to emulate apparently. You should think more about that.


And btw, I'm not slamming people here, but rather past practices that hopefully won't happen again. If people do get testy, then I may too, but I don't start it. Some can't handle the truth, and the example with the NIC award is a classic. That needs to never happen again. I'm sure you can understand and appreciate that.

Word! Karma.....


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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