Seniority list at the new AA?

[General Lee]

Dave, that was a classic AWA response.Thanks. Do not dodge the facts that you could not get hired by a single major you interviewed with. Why is that? I bet they saw your true Character and your post again shows your true mind set.

M

But you know M, it's the way it will happen. Classic respone, and the truth. Even the APA acknowledges this. You two will get the NIC award, and then use arbitration again (no fingers crossed this time), and it will look a lot like the other Majors who did it. Reality bites, but it will happen.


Read it again, it was put out by your future MAJORITY, the APA:

"We have seen a model for a successfully arbitrated seniority integration at Delta-Northwest using fences and a ratio methodology based on a percentile seniority list ranking. Also, if an American Airlines-US Airways seniority integration were to be arbitrated, our attorneys have indicated that the ongoing seniority dispute between “West” and “East” at US Airways would be settled as part of the process and should not have any negative impact on an arbitrator’s decision under the McCaskill-Bond statute."



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[sean67]

yawn...

 

[General Lee]

yawn...

Exactly. That's what the new arbitrator will be doing when he listens to your Eastie side asking for DOH and disregarding the NIC award. Popcorn ready!


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Bringupthebird]

Here’s my mindset if you haven’t figured it out: You and those like you that support all of the things that USAPA has done to injure the West pilots are some of the most despicable, vile, contemptible human beings to ever walk the face of the earth. You have managed to cheat all of us out of MILLIONS of dollars in wages, contract benefits and time off that we will NEVER recover. USAPA will go down in the history of organized labor as the most dismal failure on record. All for the sake of cheating a smaller group out of an agreed upon process. You may high-five yourselves each time you get another delay victory, but the end draws nigh.

Finally, my union speaks for ME!!

 

[cactusboy53]

Cactus Boy -

Fact one - how was Usairways in 3rd bankruptcy in 2005?

Fact two - that's a lot of FIRST's for AWA - impressive

Fact three - hey you guys just saved two major airlines now ( not including yourselves)! Boy - that is really how the AA guys feel!

Fact four - do you know how many pilots were hired at AA from 1985 - 1988? And do you know that if the SLI uses Nic - how many would be junior to AWA pilots hired 10 years later? And they would be wide body line holders under that SLI

Fact FIVE - what are you smoking if you think APA is going to agree to using a list that puts over 1000 pilots senior wide body captains ( former AWA or US) over current APA pilots.

Fact SIX - although it may not be DOH - there will be major fences around all bases and equipment.

Fact Seven - have sweet dreams if you really believe it is going down any other way that you believe.

Metro jet

OK.
You are right. You broke-down dirt bag airline only went into bankruptcy 2 times.

The rest of your "facts" (2-7)appear to be a emotional response to the rest of my post.

Fact 8: I sleep well every night. I have confidence in the court system ultimately. After all, it only took a jury 90 minutes to find USAPA guilty of Duty of Fair Representation.

It's only a matter of short time for USAPA to tread on "dangerous ground".

CB

 

[Bringupthebird]

I would expect that APA would file for Single Carrier status immediately upon the POR date. Why would they need to drag out the timeline and go through the pain of dealing with USAPA when they can put them in a box immediately and ship them back to CLT?

I'd love to see USAPA gin up their own version of AOL. How about Helpless East Egomaniacs Hijacking Another Win or HEE HAW for short.

 

[LearLove]

OK.
You broke-down dirt bag airline only went into bankruptcy 2 times.

O, I must have missed the part about your airlines stellar financial history.

 

[AAPilot]

Cactusboy, AWA was the first airline to apply and receive money from the ATSB after 9/11, 350 million dollars, and still owed 300 million in 2005..this money ultimately save the Airline.

 

[LaGarbage Man]

I'd love to see USAPA gin up their own version of AOL. How about Helpless East Egomaniacs Hijacking Another Win or HEE HAW for short.

I must admit Birdman that despite some of your previous post on FI, I really do enjoy your creativity when coming up with some the most entertaining names for the radical CLT crowd. Hee Haw is good but in my opinion "The Pulled Pork Politburo" was by far your best work to date. Keep'em coming. So far the only good thing I have seen from these past 7 years of dysfunction is the list of creative insults all sides have come up with. So far here is what I can remember, Eastholes, Westicles, Turd List, Angry FO Club, Hee Haw,and the Pulled Pork Politburo. I know there must be some I am forgetting. Feel free to add on to the list or better yet lets get a head start on our future AA brothers/sisters because lets be real here. Pilots just don't play well with other kids and it's just a matter of time until we prove it. Again

 

[cactusboy53]

O, I must have missed the part about your airlines stellar financial history.

Oh, we also had 2 bankruptcies in the past. In May 2005 we were making money in our post-9/11 contract, getting airplanes, upgrading pilots at 6.5 years and hiring new pilots (including some nice furloughed US Airways pilots that had yet to be poisoned by you nice folks).

It kind of a "snap-shot" thing. You know. That's when they take a snap shot of the merging carriers and see what is going on & what the financial heath is of each. So easy, everyone else gets it.

 

[charlie2]

I must admit Birdman that despite some of your previous post on FI, I really do enjoy your creativity when coming up with some the most entertaining names for the radical CLT crowd. Hee Haw is good but in my opinion "The Pulled Pork Politburo" was by far your best work to date. Keep'em coming. So far the only good thing I have seen from these past 7 years of dysfunction is the list of creative insults all sides have come up with. So far here is what I can remember, Eastholes, Westicles, Turd List, Angry FO Club, Hee Haw,and the Pulled Pork Politburo. I know there must be some I am forgetting. Feel free to add on to the list or better yet lets get a head start on our future AA brothers/sisters because lets be real here. Pilots just don't play well with other kids and it's just a matter of time until we prove it. Again

Don't forget Eastinfections!

 

[LaGarbage Man]

Don't forget Eastinfections!

Oopppss my bad. How could I have possibly forgotten that classic.

 

[cactusboy53]

Cactusboy, AWA was the first airline to apply and receive money from the ATSB after 9/11, 350 million dollars, and still owed 300 million in 2005..this money ultimately save the Airline.

I don't disagree that the ATSB money helped AWA. While "technically" correct, we were paying on the loan at the time of the merger. All the while making a profit.

I believe US Air also applied and received loans as well, but didn't fare as well financially.

I further believe that the merger & restructuring allowed the new company to re-finance and pay off the ATSB loans completely.

 

[charlie2]

Oh, we also had 2 bankruptcies in the past. In May 2005 we were making money in our post-9/11 contract, getting airplanes, upgrading pilots at 6.5 years and hiring new pilots (including some nice furloughed US Airways pilots that had yet to be poisoned by you nice folks).

It kind of a "snap-shot" thing. You know. That's when they take a snap shot of the merging carriers and see what is going on & what the financial heath is of each. So easy, everyone else gets it.

Ya Dave we as pilots will continue to use our beloved managements decisions against each other. Next time you sit in a Republic jump seat and there is a 29 year old captain and a 55 year old Fo (former 20 year captain flying a real jet for Midwest) make sure you slap him on the back and with your wide politician smile tell him all about how he made the wrong choice to fly for them and he deserves what he got and how lucky he is to have a job. Wait a minute that would be disgusting, vile and contemptuous behaviour that no AWA pilot would ever stoop to.

 

[OHGOON]

I would expect that APA would file for Single Carrier status immediately upon the POR date. Why would they need to drag out the timeline and go through the pain of dealing with USAPA when they can put them in a box immediately and ship them back to CLT?

I'd love to see USAPA gin up their own version of AOL. How about Helpless East Egomaniacs Hijacking Another Win or HEE HAW for short.

Now that is funny!! Well done. :laugh::crying::laugh: