Seniority dispute ends at US Airways

[St. Nic]

No they don't represent because you dumbasses think that getting rid of the union will overturn a "legally binding" arbitration award.
Besides those stellar payscales, at least you have the respect of the industry:laugh::laugh::laugh:

uh, seniority robber, the union is not overturning anything, the seniority integration was never completed. Just check the facts, jack

 

[gutshotdraw]

FNG is spot on. Parker hoists a scotch to USAPA every night, shakes his head, laughs, and thinks about how to spend his bonus...

 

[Scope out RJ's]

uh, seniority robber, the union is not overturning anything, the seniority integration was never completed. Just check the facts, jack

Um, job stealer, the union is a farce, and not abiding by the law! You morons even picked Mr. Nicolau. Your job, company, career, and payscales are a joke, and that's a fact jack!

 

[Cowboy75]

USAPAWATCH IN PHILLY

Earlier this week staff members of TheEye attended the Philadelphia contract roadshow.

Mr. Theuer should have titled the pep rally, 'The blame game, why we are never going to get a contract.'

It is absolutely amazing to us that after 2 + years of USAPA controlled negotiations we are still discussing dues check off and the grievance process. It is crucial to note that these two sections along with almost every other section of the joint CBA were TA’d prior to USAPA’s election. It was only after the election that the new sheriff in town determined that the fastest route to completing the contract would involve opening every TA’d section for renegotiation. With only two remaining negotiating sessions scheduled in 2010, the completion of a contract is years away at best.

Of course, everyone but USAPA is responsible for delaying negotiations. The Company, the Addington plaintiff's (west pilots), and the evil former bargaining agent have made it impossible to reach an agreement.

Particularly troubling was the confidence exuded by our leaders over the Addington case dismissal. It was akin to the bravado displayed by the British and French prior to the opening salvos of the Somme Offensive. Either they believe what Mr. Seham is telling them or they are intentionally lying to obfuscate the reality of our situation.

Unspoken at the event was the fact that Company’s lawsuit is the deathblow to USAPA’s raison d’etre. There are few outcomes that would trigger the Company to acquiesce and negotiate a quasi date-of-hire seniority list. The Company filed the lawsuit to indemnify themselves from future litigation and to accelerate the pace of negotiations. The surest way they can do this is to uphold their contractual obligations as specified in the Transition Agreement.

It was clear to us that the only party seeking delay is USAPA. In conflict with Mr. Cleary’s pronouncements that the Company is delaying negotiations, court documents confirm the opposite to be true. Responding to Mr. Seham’s latest emergency stay request the Company wrote:

“...US Airways unequivocally is not neutral about when the seniority dispute is settled. That needs to happen now...Furthermore, if this lawsuit is stayed, the benefits US Airways would gain from completing negotiations for a single CBA will be delayed. These facts should weigh heavily in the Court’s decision whether to grant a stay.”

Contrary to what was broadcasted at the pep rally, USAPA is doing everything in its power to delay negotiations. Mr. Cleary has boxed us in a corner and any new CBA is destined to include the Nicolau Award.

We are sick and tired of the lies and finger pointing from our union leadership. Are you?

 

[xanderman]

We are sick and tired of the lies and finger pointing from our union leadership. Are you?

If this is true...

The east pilots (the ones on these boards anyhow) are morally bankrupt and they're so bloated with pride that I believe they could never back down now. In true east fashion they'll go down point the finger at somebody... Anybody!...but themselves.

 

[Cowboy75]

If this is true...

The east pilots (the ones on these boards anyhow) are morally bankrupt and they're so bloated with pride that I believe they could never back down now. In true east fashion they'll go down point the finger at somebody... Anybody!...but themselves.

They were a dysfunctional group before America West entered the picture. We are now the targets of their discontent.

 

[becket]

You must be referring to the Captain rate. ALPA's crack (smoking?) "negotiators" never did get anything like $95 for the 190 FO's.

It's interesting that so many USAPA haters disrespect the East pay rates. USAPA had nothing to do with negotiating those rates. That was ALPA's doing, and is one of the reasons they don't represent the pilots here today.

Isn't USAPA supposed to be the "most" democratic pilot union in history? If so, you should respect the fact that EAST PILOTS voted in LOA93 and WILLINGLY ACCEPTED those abysmal pay rates. Isn't that a living example of true democracy? Isn't that what USAPA is striving for? Also, even though ALPA presented you with Crappy Pay rates, that along is 1000% more that USAPA has provided in 2.5 years...and you call ALPA worthless?! :laugh: It's amazing how NOTHING is ever the East pilots fault...NOTHING.

 

[Turtle21]

Isn't USAPA supposed to be the "most" democratic pilot union in history? If so, you should respect the fact that EAST PILOTS voted in LOA93 and WILLINGLY ACCEPTED those abysmal pay rates. Isn't that a living example of true democracy? Isn't that what USAPA is striving for? Also, even though ALPA presented you with Crappy Pay rates, that along is 1000% more that USAPA has provided in 2.5 years...and you call ALPA worthless?! :laugh: It's amazing how NOTHING is ever the East pilots fault...NOTHING.

By your account the East is at fault for everything. Please send us your bill and we will get you a check in the mail for your damages.
XXOO:blush:

 

[Cowboy75]

If this is true...

The east pilots (the ones on these boards anyhow) are morally bankrupt and they're so bloated with pride that I believe they could never back down now. In true east fashion they'll go down point the finger at somebody... Anybody!...but themselves.

Morally bankrupt, that pretty much sums it up. I'll add another thought into the mix after dealing with their union. Something along the lines of taxation without representation.

I think there are a few symbols in Philly for those interested in history.

And Boston.....

 

[St. Nic]

The DOH list has been constructed with conditions and restrictions. It is fair and equitable for all and USAPA has put it up on the website. I suggest all west pilots read it and submit input on the conditions and restrictions, to be a part of the union and particpaite. We are tired of a select few out west holding things up. Lets move forward now that the 9th has settled seniority.