Reality Check for NetJets Pilots

[Heathen]

"Pretending I have a clue? I am confidently leaving that for the readers of this board to decide."
Quote, Netjetwife.


Sorry lady, you lose. Les Paul hit all the key points and plus he did it with humor.
Now go be a good NJW and cater to your man.

 

[Les Paul]

Noodejetwife:

My husband flies the Excel and is a part of the StrongUnion organization which has put forward a slate for the MEC election. They have been leading the pilots for sometime. We are only waiting for the current inept 5 to step down w/dignity and/or be overwhelmingly voted out of office. Our SU leaders have publicly encouraged the involvement of the spouses and have thanked me, personally, for my efforts.

The only rational part of your latest dribble here is "MY HUSBAND FLIES THE EXCEL". The "WE" "OUR" and "MY EFFORTS" shows you are delusional and living as if you are the one in the family with talent and career.

Pretending to work at NetJets? What is it about the word "wife" that confuses you?.

That is a question that everyone should be asking of YOU. What part of WIFE don't YOU understand?

Pretending that I pay dues? I don't---WE do. A married couple's assets are legally shared, as are the debts.?.

Soooo..... you aren't pretending you pay dues... you are not flat out telling all of us that in fact you DO pay dues. How scary...

Speaking for the pilot group as a whole? I DO REFLECT the views of the majority and receive a lot of support for speaking up about the issues.

NO.... you DO NOT reflect the view of the majority. Again... how long have you been a pilot? What you say may be true.... but you don't WORK there so how would you know? You are simply repeating what you believe the REAL people who actually WORK feel, and that accounts for NOTHING. Your delusional fantasy has become chronic....

Pretending I have a clue? I am confidently leaving that for the readers of this board to decide. By the way, you need to check your grammar/spelling in your 2nd sentence...."Oh, that right... you don't." Mistakes like that make one appear uneducated, in other words, clueless..

LOL!! Oh believe me... the readers have decided!! LOL!! It is great watching a delusional wannabe try and and take part. It is pure enjoyment for us!!

Because I don't have time to spend hundreds of hours to be glued to my computer, I don't always proofread my posts. That suddenly makes me clueless? No... that means I'm not a twinkie eating, computer addicted loser, who is escaping their pathetic, unfulfilled life as a no career, no talent spouse, by pretending to be something YOU admit you're not, but refuse or are incapable to realize.

Les Paul

PS Please stop sending me PM's... I will not call and talk to you... quite frankly you scare me.

 

[Publishers]

airline business

Not satisfied to make pronouncement after pronouncement about Netjets and their taking back their future destinies, she now takes on the Air Force and Airlines.

Of course, we are not going to recognize that Southwest Airlines, the leader in low cost tickets and efficient service has managed to make a profit for a zillion straight quarters that pleased their investor community. Then again, that is what it is all about-- not how many pilots they employ. The American public should pay more so the oppressed airline pilots can make a decent living.

Equally apparent, she does not like the way the Air Force operates and that should be turned over to her husband and her for thier analysis and suggestions.

Now I am sure that the American public, if educated by our pilot wife, would welcome the opportunity to pay more for tickets so that combined jumbo jet crew can make more. Secondly, we ought to guarantee that the companies do not go under or get in trouble where they cannot pay wages at a certain level.

The fact that many Americans make no where near what they used to on an adjusted level is not relevant. It should not be relevant that some union contracts have severely hurt the golden goose that provided it. No doubt out Air Force and Naval aviation would be better if they had bypassed those generals and gone to congress.

Netjets is a bad dream and they no doubt do not pay you what they said when you went to work there, oops, your husband went to work there. Of course, they are fairly successful by todays standards and have employed a good number of pilots when the rest of the world was letting people go. The pilot staff does get to live in a variety of spots, they get hard days off, they stay in reasonable accomodations, fly the best and newest equipment that is maintained to a high standard, have professional staffs available to flight plan and do weather, have the opportunity to meet some of the more successsful people in this country, and do not seem to have to worry about this going away tomorrow. 20 months is certainly a long time to wait for an upgrade, I can give you a list of regional carriers that would agree to that.

The best thing about this country is that there no slavery. Her husband can walk in the door and leave any time for one of the greener pastures. It would take Netjets about a nano second to replace them from the pile of people waiting at the door.

 

[gunfyter]

It would take Netjets about a nano second to replace them from the pile of people waiting at the door.

You couldn't know how funny that really is unless you were here to witness the "Street Captain" program....

 

[Publishers]

Well if they run out of resumes, I have three or four hundred I can let them borrow.

 

[gunfyter]

Well if they run out of resumes, I have three or four hundred I can let them borrow.

You have 400 resumes of guys who CAN do my job and WILL cross a picketline during a strike for 27K per year?

Hold on to them... you might be able to sell that list for a good profit...

 

[Publishers]

don't

Don't put words in my mouth....... I said there are pile of pilots who would like to get on with Netjets.

Secondly, if you guys went on strike, I would say it would set this company back immeasurably. NJOwner and the various share owners would not meet this with much but distain and a move away from Netjets in droves. As I said, these people come to Netjets to have the problems of running your own aircraft go away and they will not suffer long with their services pulled.

Besides with the clever move to get everyone upgrade pay, it is not a $27k a year deal now is it? Vote on the thing and move on to the next step. The whinning in here is worse than from the jet engines on my ramp.

 

[gunfyter]

Vote is counted on the 29th.

Suggestion:

If you like the whining on your ramp better than here... Why don't you stroll the flightline instead of coming here. You won't be missed ....

 

[Jeff Helgeson]

The bird cage needs changing!

Well if they run out of resumes, I have three or four hundred I can let them borrow.

Make a great liner.

 

[Majik]

Secondly, if you guys went on strike, I would say it would set this company back immeasurably. NJOwner and the various share owners would not meet this with much but distain and a move away from Netjets in droves. As I said, these people come to Netjets to have the problems of running your own aircraft go away and they will not suffer long with their services pulled.

And that will be a decision that Santulli will have to make. Will he decide it's better to have the owners leave in droves (as you put it) or will he decide to increase the pilot salaries. We'll never know unless we take it that far.

You also say it would take a nano-second for NJA to hire 1900 replacement pilots and have flight safety type them and pump them out to fly our owners and their families around the country. Even if they could do that in 6 months, I'd hate to be an owner during that "learning curve".

 

[dukeofdub]

If the Owners own the aircraft, then what is tokeep them from taking it out of the NJA operations contract and moving it somewhere else? It is their airplane. Could they take them out and put them with another company if there is a strike?

 

[pilotyip]

Street Capt nothing new

In the summer of 2001, we had three of our DA-20 Captains go over to NJA and they made Captain the first day of ground school in airplanes they had never flown. So it is nothing new to hire street captains. We have just recieved background checks on some of our former Captains who are in the hiring process at NJA. Are they pooling talent for something?

 

[CRAWDADDY]

I have three or four hundred I could let them borrow.

Then why aren't they here already? Are they waiting for things to get worse?

Besides with the clever move to get everyone upgrade pay, it is not a $27k a year deal now is it?

You're really in way over your head!

 

[Majik]

In the summer of 2001, we had three of our DA-20 Captains go over to NJA and they made Captain the first day of ground school in airplanes they had never flown. So it is nothing new to hire street captains. We have just recieved background checks on some of our former Captains who are in the hiring process at NJA. Are they pooling talent for something?

They actually made captain on their very first day of ground school? A bid came out on their first day, they bid it, it closed that very same day, they quickly finished up 2 weeks of ground school that morning, flew to Wichita, and received 2 weeks of training that afternoon?
Man, you guys have some talented folks over at your company.

I think your buddies were yanking your leg. They may have been awarded a bid while they were in company indoc but I bet it was at least 3 months (minimum) before they were released to fly as a captain, and that's best case.

 

[CRAWDADDY]

but I bet it was at least 3 months (minimum) before they were released to fly as a captain, and that's best case.

Some of the street captains still haven't been released. That is, unless you included those that were released back to the street!