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How about some pictures of Lake Lanier, down what? 25 feet? Lots of boats can't even get out of their marinas. Water rationing coming to your suburb of ATL soon!

I hit dirt in Alatoona about 300ft from shore. When I wanted to take my boat out, I had to go to a marina 2 miles away from the one I had my boat at since the ramp was about 10ft above the water
 
You might be from Minnesota if....

You measure distance in minutes.
Down south to you means Iowa.
Snow tires came standard on your car.
75% of your graduating class went to the University of Minnesota.
People from other states love to hear you say words with O's in them.
You hate Fargo but realize that a lot of your family has that accent.
You assume when you say "Twin Cities" people know to where you're referring.
You know what uff-da means and how to use it properly.
You own an icehouse, snowmobile, and a 4-wheel drive vehicle.
You know that when it comes to AM, there is only WCCO; besides, what else do you need?
Everyone you know has a cabin.
You consider it a sport to gather your food by drilling through 18 inches of ice and sitting there all day hoping the food will swim by.
You are proud that your state makes the national news 96 nights each year because International Falls is the coldest spot in the nation.
You have refused to buy something because it's too "spendy."
You're a card-carrying member of both the NRA and the ACLU.
Your local Dairy Queen is closed from December through February.
You have no concept of public transportation.
You instinctively walk like a penguin for three months out of the year.
Someone in a store offers you assistance, and they don't work there.
You know more than one person that has hit a deer.
Your dad's sun tan stops at a line curving around the middle of his forehead.
You have apologized to a telemarketer.
You may not have actually eaten it, but you have heard of Lutefisk.
You know what Mille Lacs is and how to spell it.
Nothing gets you madder than seeing a Green Bay sticker on a Minnesota car.
You have worn shorts and a parka at the same time.
You have either a pet or a child named "Kirby."
Your town has an equal number of bars and churches.
You have had an entire telephone conversation with someone who dialed a wrong number.
The only reason you go to Wisconsin is to get fireworks, to fish, or to buy beer on Sunday.
You know how to say Wayzata, Mahtomedi, and Shakopee.
You grew up thinking rice was only for dessert.
You think that ketchup is a little too spicy.
You drink POP, not SODA.
You always believed that vacation meant "going up north."
Every January, from age 2 to l3, you let your older siblings talk you into putting your tongue on a steel post.
You consider Lime Jell-O a highly versatile food: a breakfast dish when filled with fruit, a salad when it has shredded carrots and a dab of mayonnaise, and a dessert when topped with Dreamwhip.
You never had to rewind any part of "Fargo" because you missed some of the dialogue.
You call highways freeways.
Your town has an annual festival honoring a fruit, vegetable, or ethnic food.
The first time you saw "Grumpy Old Men," you thought it was a documentary.
You can recite, from memory, more than a half-dozen "Ole and Lena" jokes.
Every time you see moonlight on a lake, you think of a dancing bear, and sing, gently, "From the land of sky-blue waters.....Hamm's the beer that's so refreshing..."
Your dog dies, your spouse leaves you, you lose your job, and your car breaks down, all on the same day, and your first thought is, "It could be worse."
You've gone trick-or-treating in 3 feet of snow.
 
IMO we should just wait until DAL goes bankrupt again by expanding into one of the worst financial markets in the history of the United States while oil is at a record high. Then we can pick up their pieces, invert their seniority list and offer preferential interviews in that order. Only after a thorough psychological screening of course.

Sorry I just wanted to post with my new avatar. :pimp:


Interesting. The Last word I got is that Delta's stand alone plan is to take deliveries of the remaining 757s, 13--not 8--777s in the next 13 months, the 10 737-700s (primarily for international flying), and possibly some MD90s. This is in direct response to inflating oil. All deliveries are set to expand internationally, which is where the money is currently being made. Domestic is going down, hence the drawdown of Comair. Hence, the inexplicable increase of Compass. The numbers are out there. Delta's RASM is on the steady rise, NWA's is on the decrease. They are relying on a 787 which has been delayed, and delayed to be their salvation on international RASM.

I'm telling you guys, the picture is going to look a lot different in a year when this thing gets shoved, not asked, and you'll lose your DOH anyway.

Choose wisely
 
I never understood the fascination with ice fishing. Get a trailer-park reject structure, drag it out to the middle of a frozen lake, drill a hole in the ice, drink beer, scratch yourself and freeze your nuts off. Repeat next weekend.

What am I missing?
 
I'm telling you guys, the picture is going to look a lot different in a year when this thing gets shoved, not asked, and you'll lose your DOH anyway.

Choose wisely

Cool! We never asked for DOH, and it'll be a lot sooner than a year. BOHICA
 
I never understood the fascination with ice fishing. Get a trailer-park reject structure, drag it out to the middle of a frozen lake, drill a hole in the ice, drink beer, scratch yourself and freeze your nuts off. Repeat next weekend.

What am I missing?

What do you do...golf?
 
I never understood the fascination with ice fishing. Get a trailer-park reject structure, drag it out to the middle of a frozen lake, drill a hole in the ice, drink beer, scratch yourself and freeze your nuts off. Repeat next weekend.

What am I missing?

I guess your not scratching fast enough!

Schwanker
 
Isn't it enough that you guys are getting the Delta pay and work rules...you also want credit for DELTA's staffing formula...one of the many items we fought for during our bankruptcy...if you retired your airplanes and we bought new ones would you think that you should get credit for those too??They will require new hires below all of us no one gets credit for them!!!Unbelievable!!!

I dont' work for NWA. Perhaps it's a case of Stockholm syndrome from riding on their jump-seat every week.

The point is NWA believes they are bringing jobs to the table. Most Delta guys on Flightinfo apparently don't believe this. I can't say for certain either of these opinions are the majority at each respective company, but my information is based on the NWA pilots I have spoken to. Mostly 757 and 320, also one 330 guy.

I can say for certain that if NWA guys believe they bring jobs to the table and DAL guys say they don't there won't be a consensual deal.
 
I never understood the fascination with ice fishing. Get a trailer-park reject structure, drag it out to the middle of a frozen lake, drill a hole in the ice, drink beer, scratch yourself and freeze your nuts off. Repeat next weekend.

What am I missing?

If you're cold you're doing it wrong. Other than that you are pretty much right on the money....it's great!:D
 
Can you guys honestly say you believe Delta will bring more vacancies over the next three years? Five years? Ten years?

Who gets credit for the vacancies caused by the change in work rules? NWA? Delta? Isn't it NWA airplanes that will be staffed?

NWALPA isn't bringing any vacancies due to a staffing formula. Those vacancies don't exist outside of a merger and then are only created once the DAL PWA staffing formula and work rules are applied. If anything the DAL pilots, through their collective bargaining priorities, created the need for those positions, while the NWA pilots, through their collective bargaining priorities, eliminated the requirement for those jobs.

NWALPA has no pre merger expectation of those positions, and they would only exist post merger due to the hard work and sacrifice of the DAL pilots.
 
Not sure if this was already mentioned but if this merger happens all of the DC9's (including those scheduled for retirement) will stay for 4 more years. At least that is the information I have received. Now just get the current NWA guys to agree to stay in them for those 4 years and we might have something.
 
NWALPA isn't bringing any vacancies due to a staffing formula. Those vacancies don't exist outside of a merger and then are only created once the DAL PWA staffing formula and work rules are applied. If anything the DAL pilots, through their collective bargaining priorities, created the need for those positions, while the NWA pilots, through their collective bargaining priorities, eliminated the requirement for those jobs.

NWALPA has no pre merger expectation of those positions, and they would only exist post merger due to the hard work and sacrifice of the DAL pilots.


:puke:
 
NWALPA isn't bringing any vacancies due to a staffing formula. Those vacancies don't exist outside of a merger and then are only created once the DAL PWA staffing formula and work rules are applied. If anything the DAL pilots, through their collective bargaining priorities, created the need for those positions, while the NWA pilots, through their collective bargaining priorities, eliminated the requirement for those jobs.

NWALPA has no pre merger expectation of those positions, and they would only exist post merger due to the hard work and sacrifice of the DAL pilots.

What color is the sky on your planet? :nuts: Does this look familiar???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVR-eIPkRjo&feature=related
 
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