NO JS to anti-ALPA types

[pookie]

After speaking to him for 15 minutes about how we need to unify all pilot groups as a collective whole, I realized that he did not care.

The point that i realized that he didnt care was when he said Fukc ALPA. Jose, let me make it clear to you. You can support and vote for whoever you want, but act professioanl at all times. SkyWest is in the middle of a union drive and i try to talk to all the young pilots about how important their profession is and what representation means.

Jose, i am assuming that you are not involved with improving our profession and that is the reason why i think that you approve of bad behavior.

 

[PCL_128]

Advocating using the jumpseat as a weapon and threatening people who don't agree isn't the way to win them over.....

Neither of us have done any such thing. I specifically stated that I have never denied a non-union pilot. However, I will always, no matter what, defend the right of a Captain to do whatever he wants with his own jumpseat. I don't challenge Captain's authority.

 

[JoeMerchant]

The point that i realized that he didnt care was when he said Fukc ALPA. Jose, let me make it clear to you. You can support and vote for whoever you want, but act professioanl at all times. SkyWest is in the middle of a union drive and i try to talk to all the young pilots about how important their profession is and what representation means.

Jose, i am assuming that you are not involved with improving our profession and that is the reason why i think that you approve of bad behavior.

Pookie,

I am involved in improving our profession.... more so than most..... I have done my "tour of duty" in ALPA.... Almost 10 years of volunteering....

ALPA isn't "unifying" us..... It is dividing us.... You are at Aloha, so you don't see it first hand like many of us "regional whipsaw victims".....

I was an ALPA "true believer"..... wore the pin, went to meetings, walked numerous info. pickets, put the stickers on the flight bag, etc.... Then I watched how ALPA allowed and participated in the "bidding" process.... I watched ALPA groups fight amongst themselves with scope, mergers, and age 60.....

I don't say "Fck ALPA", but I don't wear the pin anymore, and if you ask me about ALPA..... I will give you an honest answer..... ALPA has failed....

 

[JoeMerchant]

Neither of us have done any such thing. I specifically stated that I have never denied a non-union pilot. However, I will always, no matter what, defend the right of a Captain to do whatever he wants with his own jumpseat. I don't challenge Captain's authority.

You are both subtly advocating using the jumpseat against those who don't drink the koolaid.... at least own up to it.....

The captain asked a question..... the captain didn't like the answer because it wasn't "PC"..... You are defending it and it contributes to the "thug" mentality of unions....

Keep it up and watch the Skywest drive go down ..... yet AGAIN.....

 

[PCL_128]

You are both subtly advocating using the jumpseat against those who don't drink the koolaid.... at least own up to it.....

No I'm not, Joey. I'm just advocating for Captain's authority.

The captain asked a question..... the captain didn't like the answer because it wasn't "PC"..... You are defending it and it contributes to the "thug" mentality of unions....

Yes or no question, Joey: Do you believe a Captain has a right to decide who gets to ride on his jumpseat?

 

[JoeMerchant]

No I'm not, Joey. I'm just advocating for Captain's authority.



Yes or no question, Joey: Do you believe a Captain has a right to decide who gets to ride on his jumpseat?

He absolutely does..... no question there..... But be very careful what you wish for.....

Using it as a political weapon will leave many people stranded.....

I give you ALPA koolaid drinkers a ride everyday.... if you want to push the issue, I can be convinced, as I am rapidly losing patience with the ALPA PC crowd....

 

[overseas boy]

Classic, YOU asked him what he thought of unions and then when he told you and it didn't AGREE with YOUR opinions, you threw your teddy out of the stroller. Grow Up.

 

[FO 4 Life]

In the mid-90s, most legacy captains asked for your union card to ride the jumpseat. It didn't necessarily have to be ALPA, but you had better be in a shop. They also carried the "list." But that was when regionals were just that.

 

[Speedtape]

Pookie,

I am involved in improving our profession.... more so than most..... I have done my "tour of duty" in ALPA.... Almost 10 years of volunteering....

ALPA isn't "unifying" us..... It is dividing us.... You are at Aloha, so you don't see it first hand like many of us "regional whipsaw victims".....

I was an ALPA "true believer"..... wore the pin, went to meetings, walked numerous info. pickets, put the stickers on the flight bag, etc.... Then I watched how ALPA allowed and participated in the "bidding" process.... I watched ALPA groups fight amongst themselves with scope, mergers, and age 60.....

I don't say "Fck ALPA", but I don't wear the pin anymore, and if you ask me about ALPA..... I will give you an honest answer..... ALPA has failed....

Joey,

We know your position. What's your plan for a better pilot paradise? Divide and conquer is not an option.

 

[Vne]

Rez 'o said:

what do you do when someone offends you in your own house?
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I believe the TWA pilots are addressing that question with ALPA in the courts right?