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I am not an airline pilot, and maybe never will be, but I would like to add my 2 cents worth here.

Unions killed the American auto industry, making it impossible to create a good car that produced a profit for the company. Unions have had their purpose in this country, but have also been abused.

Their purpose was to stop the 10-14 hour working days in poorly lit and poorly ventilated working conditions, in the factories of yester-year.

They are overly abused today, with no real purpose, and have become political machines as well.

Ask any teacher who is not a Democrat if they wish they had a choice about paying teacher union dues.

If I were an airline FO, realizing this was my last ride home, this jerk would get a punch in the face, AND my view about unions after I knocked him through the windshield, and he came to on the ground.

What a jerk. I know he wouldn't dare talk to me one on one, face to face, without his macho Captain shirt on, in a neutral atmosphere like a coffee shop.

People have a choice, and mine would be to vote against the union, and this guy is one reason why.
 
Pookie, good luck describing that one to your JS committee if Skywest gets rather upset at this one

This comment always cracks me up. Just what do you think that his jumpseat committee can do about it? Give him a stern talking to? Yeah, I'm sure Pookie would be scared. :rolleyes: Jumpseat committees have no authority to tell Captains what to do with their jumpseats.
 
dpneedham = Management's Wet Dream.

If you ever become an airline pilot, you'll understand the need for a union. Until then, keep "knocking 'em through the windshields".
 
I am not an airline pilot, and maybe never will be

I certainly hope not. The last thing we need is another pilot with his tongue up management ass.
 
P.S.

If your unions are worth a crap, then fight for the little guy!

One of the most important rules of business is PAY THE PEOPLE WHO DO THE WORK!

Any airline that doesn't pay the people who do the work, is only here for today, and won't be around tomorrow.

I am sitting here realizing that my dream might not ever materialize because of the greed of the management of the regional airlines, and it pisses me off. But those who are senior Captains and FO's also must realize that they not only have to fight for themselves, but the newest guy on the block.

As a newbie, or a newbie wanna-be, my view is that the unions OBVIOUSLY can't be worth a crap. All I have to do is look at the pay scale, where I would start, and that says it all.

A new FO can't even make a living if he get's his parent's permission to live at home, and decides to not marry his girlfriend, or have any kids.

It is just sick, sick, sick.

If I flew at the airlines, I would be tired, and behind on payments on all my bills, nearly all the time. Can you say a perfect case for stress? And as some have said in other strings, "the PAX have no clue."

Well, this PAX has a clue. I think I'll walk, thank you very much.

You all need to walk the picket line, starting yesterday. But I really don't think your union is the answer. They haven't delivered you a damn thing.
 
I think my comments are very balanced.

Sorry if you don't agree.

And I am sorry for getting angry, but it just ticks me off that I can make more working at McDonalds.
 
I think my comments are very balanced.

Sorry if you don't agree.

And I am sorry for getting angry, but it just ticks me off that I can make more working at McDonalds.

I understand what you're saying. When I started my aviation adventure, it was pre 9/11 and my plans were to get on with a regional, and then within a few years be on my way to a lucrative career at some legacy carrier making some serious coin while having a great QOL to go along with it.

Then the ******************** hit the fan, the industry has changed, and I'm left wondering what the hell happened to my game plan. Honestly, not to knock the people who I work with, but if my career ends up remaining at a Regional, I will be disappointed in how it turned out. I work with many great people who are making a career out of ASA for one reason or another, and I can respect that, but it's not what I wanted to do with myself.

As far as fighting for the little people (I think you mean new pilots to the industry) I hope I can leave ASA a better place than I found it....and I don't believe that can be done without a union.
 
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I recently had a new hire FO from SkyWest who requested my jumpseat to SLC. I asked him about his views on the union drive. His response was that unions are basically useless and that SkyWest was doing better than most regionals without unions. After speaking to him for 15 minutes about how we need to unify all pilot groups as a collective whole, I realized that he did not care.

With that said, I just merely denied him his jumpseat on my plane. I will pick and choose who rides up front and if you dont have the decency to better the profession, I dont want you around my cockpit.

I know that the jumpseat should not be used for political purposes but i am frustrated to these new pilots that only think about themselves.

The jumpseat agreement was provided by ALPA and fought by ALPA. If you dont support that, you are no longer allowed in my plane.

And how did this solve your frustration? You HAVE alpo, why are you so frustrated?
 
dpneedham,

What do you do for a living, please do tell?

701EV
 
Jumpseat as a weapon. Priceless.

Thank God for home basing.
 
This comment always cracks me up. Just what do you think that his jumpseat committee can do about it? Give him a stern talking to? Yeah, I'm sure Pookie would be scared. :rolleyes: Jumpseat committees have no authority to tell Captains what to do with their jumpseats.

I'm not talking about Pookie being given a stern talking to. I'm talking about a JS war breaking out if guys like Pookie make denying Skywesters or any of the "blacklisted" pilots for that matter, a habit or practice. Besides, it's stupid and petty to seek out reasons to deny JS to pilots you dislike. I may not like a certain pilot group, but so long as the JS doesn't say or do anything to jeopordize his JS, I assume he is just a regular guy trying to make a living as best he can, perhaps raise a family.

Anyway, I digress.
 
With that said, I just merely denied him his jumpseat on my plane. I will pick and choose who rides up front and if you dont have the decency to better the profession, I dont want you around my cockpit.

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Wow. Bet he really wants to vote ALPA onto the property now.

And when he upgrades someday, and someone from your airline desperately needs his jumpseat to get on the last flight out to see his dying parent or sick kid, I wonder if he'll have a chance?

What an ass. You won't pay the price of starting a jumpseat war. And you won't achieve anything either. But everyone else will suffer. What an utter moron.

(PS . . .and you LECTURED him for 15 minutes then dumped him? Thank god I don't have to fly with you. Your FO's must hate your guts with that kind of god complex)
 

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