NJ Recalls

[CE750Driver]

Yeah, someone who wants to be back at NetJets shouldn't be around their customers, yet those who bitch about the job but don't leave should? :laugh: Sound like some typical NJA 5%er logic to me.

Guys like Gun and I built NJA. Little Bitches like you have destroyed it.
Please find another job. Gun and I are busy fixing the mess ups sniveling bitches like you have created.

 

[imacdog]

Guys like Gun and I built NJA. Little Bitches like you have destroyed it.
Please find another job. Gun and I are busy fixing the mess ups sniveling bitches like you have created.

Glad to see the "You're not a real NJAer because you weren't here in '05" attitude is alive and well. However, you haven't answered my question - why should someone who is enthusiastic to return to the company be kept away from NJA customers, while the 5%ers shouldn't? Just trying to figure out the logic here.

BTW what mess did I create, and how did I destroy NJA before being furloughed? It would be wonderful to hear your thoughts.

 

[OPECJet]

Guys like Gun and I built NJA. Little Bitches like you have destroyed it.
Please find another job. Gun and I are busy fixing the mess ups sniveling bitches like you have created.

I think you probably ought to go back into the recent, Harry Potter led NJA history. The company hasnt been destroyed. Yet If it does burn, it won't be any pilot who lights the match.

 

[ghostrider64]

Been many requests for pilots to extend lately. Not even close to the busy season and staffing is an issue. Also been seeing many leave requests denied, that were once handed out like candy.

Recalls can't be more than a year off at this pace, no matter how much NJA shrinks.

 

[gunfyter]

Forgive me for bringing up old sh-t fellas. However, earlier in this thread somone mentioned a meeting in Nov. to discuss recalls. Was this just an idiot shooting off his mouth or was there anything behid it. Maybe I missed what became of it and I am too lazy to go back to try to find out. Thanks to whoever can shead any light on this either way.

I looked into this. Something like this happened:

Pilots: "We've been busy. When will we recall furloughs?"

Management: "We don't know now ... Perhaps we may know something in November"

I think it means nothing. What were they going to say when asked?

Remember before the furloughs when we asked if there were going to be furloughs:
"Furloughs? NO. The only people talking about furloughs are the pilots"

We were the last to know that furloughs were going to happen and we'll be last to know if recalls will happen

 

[Downwind]

Been many requests for pilots to extend lately. Not even close to the busy season and staffing is an issue. Also been seeing many leave requests denied, that were once handed out like candy.

Recalls can't be more than a year off at this pace, no matter how much NJA shrinks.

I hope those extended days are being rejected by our brothers.

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[Wankel7]

I looked into this. Something like this happened:

Pilots: "We've been busy. When will we recall furloughs?"

Management: "We don't know now ... but thanks for picking up those extended days ! You're on the A Team now!"

Pilots " Cool I need to make some extra payments on my vacation house."

Fixed it for ya!

 

[gunfyter]

Fixed it for ya!

Ahhhh ... and here I am a fellow Rotary guy ... but I drive an 8.... :beer:

 

[imacdog]

The 8 is one of the few where the shifter is perfect. Most others feel like churning butter.

 

[jetlag7]

It's official - announcement was made this morning...

NJ will begin recalling furloughed pilots and hiring new flight attendants by the end of March!!!!!

 

[pilotyip]

Any numbers, have plan for recruiting here at JUS

 

[jetlag7]

No numbers yet.... the phrase used in the announcement stated that the recall will be "limited in scope."

The announcement also mentioned that the recall was driven by the "recent increase in attrition."

FWIW....

 

[ultrarunner]

I think the point is, and one with which I agree, is that management pay has no bearing on the fairness of pilot pay. And that the total of upper management compensation is inconsequential in the overall scheme of things.

There is no "fairness or unfairness of pilot-pay". Pilot pay is strictly a function of how well the union negotiated with management. You get what you negotiate...

 

[Downwind]

No numbers yet.... the phrase used in the announcement stated that the recall will be "limited in scope."

The announcement also mentioned that the recall was driven by the "recent increase in attrition."

FWIW....

I haven't spoken with a lot of NJ crews and certainly not a representative sample, but all the ones that I've spoken with who are 50 or under are applying to every major there is and can't wait to get the hell out.

I'd gladly take a recall over what I'm doing now. Jet current and able to check the 200 hours in 12 months box. I'd at least have more options after a year back at NJA then I do now.

I hope things improve at the company I loved but if they don't I'll use her like a $2 whore and do what's best for me. Sokol and Hansel damn sure did.

 

[gutshotdraw]

I haven't spoken with a lot of NJ crews and certainly not a representative sample, but all the ones that I've spoken with who are 50 or under are applying to every major there is and can't wait to get the hell out.

I'd gladly take a recall over what I'm doing now. Jet current and able to check the 200 hours in 12 months box. I'd at least have more options after a year back at NJA then I do now.

I hope things improve at the company I loved but if they don't I'll use her like a $2 whore and do what's best for me. Sokol and Hansel damn sure did.

Exactamundo.

The more active pilots that leave for something better, the more furloughed folks that have found something better, the more furloughed folks that come back, get current, and blow the pop stand, the more leverage the pilot group gains.

No guarantee that Jordy will EVER "get it," but a couple million in retraining folks who almost immediately leave MIGHT just get the Oracle's attention.

 

[jetlag7]

Time to revive an old thread.....

If what they told us in recurrent this week holds up, (demand continues on it's current trajectory) it looks like the remaining pilots on the furlough list should be receiving a recall notice before the year is out!

 

[-FlyAuburn-]

Great news for some, bad timing for others! I'm personally struggling with the decision to come back or cut ties all together. About 140 from the bottom. Expecting a letter in the mail before the year is out for sure. Been working a pretty sweet Part 91 CE-680 gig for the past 5 years. Based on some of the negatives I've heard about the current EMT I'm very skeptical about a going back. Definitely deferring as long as I can. Anybody else feel that way?

 

[ghostrider64]

I think the word "demand" is misleading... Demand for pilots might be up, due to pilots leaving the ship as fast as possible...

You won't find a single pilot with a kind word for the EMT here. The EMT is hell bent on a concessionary contract, and stretching out negotiations for years.


In other words, you're coming back to a company that is experiencing war on all fronts, with scheduling that is horrible. You'll be fatigued at least one day every seven you're on the road. All responsibility to monitor your rest will be on your shoulders. Planes are moving as fast as they can airline second and third crews to them.


That said, it's still the best "fractional" to work for. Which honestly, I don't think is saying much.

 

[Fozzy]

What he said.

 

[BentOver]

The Fractionals had their 2-3 years in the spotlight.... The only time Netjets was the place to be was after the '07 IBB until about mid 2009....