NJ Recalls

[Rubber Ducky]

So 220 ish recall notices sent? Halfway through the list.

 

[flagshipper]

So 220 ish recall notices sent? Halfway through the list.

yep 221 sent 238 to go

 

[Praetorian]

What % of pilots are accepting the recall?

 

[gutshotdraw]

What % of pilots are accepting the recall?

So far, under 40% and that number is falling.

 

[JustPlaneTruth]

Once the current bargaining offer from the Company makes its way out, the numbers will go down drastically. Extremely regressive on every front. Call 3 to get 1 is what the NJASAP leadership states and the list should be exhausted by the end of the year because more are leaving than are coming back.

 

[fly4funcrj]

For those that are returning be prepared for the fight of your career. The EMT is hellbent on MAJOR concessions.

 

[Rubber Ducky]

For those that are returning be prepared for the fight of your career. The EMT is hellbent on MAJOR concessions.

Hmmm... The furloughed pilot group made it crystal clear that they would rather be furloughed than the pilot group take ANY concessions so they would have a future to return to. Five years later, nothing has changed and certainly not going to take BOTH concessions AND a 5 year furlough. Game on.

 

[Pattern-Master]

What kind of concessions are they looking for?

 

[LAZYB]

What kind of concessions are they looking for?

Whatta ya got.

 

[rajflyboy]

congrats to all that get their old jobs back with Netjets!!

 

[BentOver]

For those that are returning be prepared for the fight of your career. The EMT is hellbent on MAJOR concessions.

Lemme give ya a tiny piece of advice when you run into a recalled guy...

For many the last 4 years have been a fight for life.... The current negotiations are small potatoes when compared to the furlough

 

[jetlag7]

Lemme give ya a tiny piece of advice when you run into a recalled guy...

For many the last 4 years have been a fight for life.... The current negotiations are small potatoes when compared to the furlough

Welcome back! Sounds like 495 battle-ready steely-eyed pilots are rejoining our ranks!

 

[flagshipper]

I have waited a long time to come back so they will get nothing out of me.

 

[T-1GUY]

Good luck to all the returnees. I left as an Eight year FO to fly for a major. The job changed dramatically for the worse in the last few years. I hope y'all get everything you should get. Don't sell yourselves short.

 

[pilotyip]

Welcome back! Sounds like 495 battle-ready steely-eyed pilots are rejoining our ranks!

we are finding the real number will be well below 495, all the better that means hiring will start sooner, can't wait to get my resume in that pile.

 

[imacdog]

Lemme give ya a tiny piece of advice when you run into a recalled guy...

For many the last 4 years have been a fight for life.... The current negotiations are small potatoes when compared to the furlough

F'n A.

 

[gutshotdraw]

we are finding the real number will be well below 495, all the better that means hiring will start sooner, can't wait to get my resume in that pile.

Hahahaha. Nice one...

 

[VGerect]

Lemme give ya a tiny piece of advice when you run into a recalled guy...

For many the last 4 years have been a fight for life.... The current negotiations are small potatoes when compared to the furlough

Yeah this.

 

[BentOver]

Just trying to keep a guy from inserting his foot in his mouth....

Can see it already... On the road, non furloughee starts spouting about how miserable the last 4 years have been.. Meanwhile the furloughee lost his house, wife, credit, savings or any combination and just blinks in amazement at the apparent brain dead guy next to him...

 

[pilotyip]

I wish this rumor were true, but unfortunately I'm 99.9% sure there is no truth to it.

Response to orginal post of Jan 2013 when I said NJ woudl start recalling this year. So I was off a year, big thread 46 pages

 

[gunfyter]

Response to orginal post of Jan 2013 when I said NJ woudl start recalling this year. So I was off a year, big thread 46 pages

You should be in our management... we would be better off ... Thats when they needed to start recalls.

But they rather lobby for selloffs and scope concessions

 

[acaTerry]

just lie about your education.....no one ever checks.

i have a 4 yr degree but i wrote down 2 masters degrees on my app and got the job.

no one ever checked about it.

do what you gotta do to get hired, just make sure if you lie about your college you better be the best pilot in the hangar.

A little quote from the ATP requirements:

Sec. 61.153 ? Eligibility requirements: General.

To be eligible for an airline transport pilot certificate, a person must:
(a) Be at least 23 years of age;

(b) Be able to read, speak, write, and understand the English language. If the applicant is unable to meet one of these requirements due to medical reasons, then the Administrator may place such operating limitations on that applicant's pilot certificate as are necessary for the safe operation of the aircraft;

(c) Be of good moral character;

(d) Meet at least one of the following requirements:




Looks like you blew that one. I wonder how many qualified and honest pilots were not considered for jobs because of liars. Good to know we're in good company out there. No wonder so many people don't like professional pilots.
"Do what you have to do to get the job"? I would expect that to mean you go out, better yourself and EARN it. Get QUALIFIED, not steal it through lies and trickery.
College degree is not the issue here, but geez, what the hell? You're proud of this?

.

 

[av8trinabarrel]

A little quote from the ATP requirements:

Sec. 61.153 ? Eligibility requirements: General.

To be eligible for an airline transport pilot certificate, a person must:
(a) Be at least 23 years of age;

(b) Be able to read, speak, write, and understand the English language. If the applicant is unable to meet one of these requirements due to medical reasons, then the Administrator may place such operating limitations on that applicant's pilot certificate as are necessary for the safe operation of the aircraft;

(c) Be of good moral character;

(d) Meet at least one of the following requirements:




Looks like you blew that one. I wonder how many qualified and honest pilots were not considered for jobs because of liars. Good to know we're in good company out there. No wonder so many people don't like professional pilots.
"Do what you have to do to get the job"? I would expect that to mean you go out, better yourself and EARN it. Get QUALIFIED, not steal it through lies and trickery.
College degree is not the issue here, but geez, what the hell? You're proud of this?

.

I would wager the green ink cartridge ran dry for broke that day he posted.

 

[brokeflyer]

A little quote from the ATP requirements:

Sec. 61.153 ? Eligibility requirements: General.

To be eligible for an airline transport pilot certificate, a person must:
(a) Be at least 23 years of age;

(b) Be able to read, speak, write, and understand the English language. If the applicant is unable to meet one of these requirements due to medical reasons, then the Administrator may place such operating limitations on that applicant's pilot certificate as are necessary for the safe operation of the aircraft;

(c) Be of good moral character;

(d) Meet at least one of the following requirements:




Looks like you blew that one. I wonder how many qualified and honest pilots were not considered for jobs because of liars. Good to know we're in good company out there. No wonder so many people don't like professional pilots.
"Do what you have to do to get the job"? I would expect that to mean you go out, better yourself and EARN it. Get QUALIFIED, not steal it through lies and trickery.
College degree is not the issue here, but geez, what the hell? You're proud of this?

.

those are just for eligibility. Once you get it that dont apply.

 

[gutshotdraw]

A little quote from the ATP requirements:

Sec. 61.153 ? Eligibility requirements: General.

To be eligible for an airline transport pilot certificate, a person must:
(a) Be at least 23 years of age;

(b) Be able to read, speak, write, and understand the English language. If the applicant is unable to meet one of these requirements due to medical reasons, then the Administrator may place such operating limitations on that applicant's pilot certificate as are necessary for the safe operation of the aircraft;

(c) Be of good moral character;

(d) Meet at least one of the following requirements:




Looks like you blew that one. I wonder how many qualified and honest pilots were not considered for jobs because of liars. Good to know we're in good company out there. No wonder so many people don't like professional pilots.
"Do what you have to do to get the job"? I would expect that to mean you go out, better yourself and EARN it. Get QUALIFIED, not steal it through lies and trickery.
College degree is not the issue here, but geez, what the hell? You're proud of this?

.

Hell T, if we applied 61.153(c) around here, we'd probably be down to a few hundred pilots.....:nuts:

 

[TWA 2 ASA FO]

those are just for eligibility. Once you get it that dont apply.

We as pilots should not be suprised that the moral decline that is in full swing in society doesn't skip the pilot profession.

I wouldn't be so proud of this falsification. Every job I have had checked my school records for accuracy.

If you are caught lying on your application expect to be terminated.

We had a pilot recently terminated who applied for another position within the company. They did some research on what he claimed to have done on his resume and found out it was all a fabrication. Not only did he not get the job he was applying for, he was terminated from his current position as well.

If you are willing to lie on your application that goes to show that you don't believe in rules. I myself would never want you in my crew as there is no place for this type of attitude in our profession.

Grow up.

 

[jetlag7]

We as pilots should not be suprised that the moral decline that is in full swing in society doesn't skip the pilot profession.

I wouldn't be so proud of this falsification. Every job I have had checked my school records for accuracy.

If you are caught lying on your application expect to be terminated.

We had a pilot recently terminated who applied for another position within the company. They did some research on what he claimed to have done on his resume and found out it was all a fabrication. Not only did he not get the job he was applying for, he was terminated from his current position as well.

If you are willing to lie on your application that goes to show that you don't believe in rules. I myself would never want you in my crew as there is no place for this type of attitude in our profession.

Grow up.

+1 Excellent post

 

[brokeflyer]

We as pilots should not be suprised that the moral decline that is in full swing in society doesn't skip the pilot profession.

I wouldn't be so proud of this falsification. Every job I have had checked my school records for accuracy.

If you are caught lying on your application expect to be terminated.

We had a pilot recently terminated who applied for another position within the company. They did some research on what he claimed to have done on his resume and found out it was all a fabrication. Not only did he not get the job he was applying for, he was terminated from his current position as well.

If you are willing to lie on your application that goes to show that you don't believe in rules. I myself would never want you in my crew as there is no place for this type of attitude in our profession.

Grow up.

lighten up francis, you really believe what i wrote was the truth then maybe you need a vacation. just sayin'

 

[doh]

lighten up francis, you really believe what i wrote was the truth then maybe you need a vacation. just sayin'

I thought it was hilarious! Because I knew the holier than thou tools wouldn't get it! And "those are just for eligibility. Once you get it that dont apply."...bwwwaaaaahahahahaha!:beer:

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

TWA
"If you are willing to lie on your application that goes to show that you don't believe in rules. I myself would never want you in my crew as there is no place for this type of attitude in our profession."
Well said . It's after you are hired that they want to "bend" the rules and operate in the grey area. How can you continue to plan to operate after 14 hours when you don't have 10 hours of rest in the previous 24? Do you get paid OT for it? That's bribery or selfishness depending on what side you are on.