NJ Recalls

[FLYLOW22]

November decision

 

[BentOver]

Could ya be any more vague?

 

[-FlyAuburn-]

November decision

Seriously. Care to explain this?

 

[fischman]

In November the EMT is going to decide whether or not to recall is the way I understand it.

 

[jetlag7]

I'll make a guess... does it have something to do with application windows opening up as well as the kick-off to the Holiday travel season?

 

[-FlyAuburn-]

In November the EMT is going to decide whether or not to recall is the way I understand it.

Understand it based on what? Some more info as to what has been said that would make any active pilot think this would be nice. Especially when we have had no such communication from NJASAP. Thanks.

 

[imacdog]

If you heard it on FI then it must be true!

 

[Rubber Ducky]

I wonder if wonder boy realizes how long it takes to put a pilot through training. Make a decision in November an they'll be lucky to have the FIRST guy/gal on the line for the Super Bowl.

Anybody seen the 2005 CBA interpretive transcripts yet???

 

[FLYLOW22]

I wonder if wonder boy realizes how long it takes to put a pilot through training. Make a decision in November an they'll be lucky to have the FIRST guy/gal on the line for the Super Bowl.

Anybody seen the 2005 CBA interpretive transcripts yet???

Good thing the pay begins immediately upon recall.

Good luck to all.

 

[VGerect]

In November the EMT is going to decide whether or not to recall is the way I understand it.

If there's any truth to that, it's good news.

Let's take a hypothetical look at the timeline for such a recall to happen.

Nov 04- EMT decides to initiate recalls
Nov 07- Recall letters are Fed-Ex'd out
Nov 08- Pilots receive their recall letters starting the 14 day clock.
Nov 22- Pilots response to company due (14 days after getting letter)
Dec 02- Indoc starts in Columbus (still 2 weeks or shorter?)
Dec 13- Indoc finished (now too late in Dec to start any FSI training)
Jan 06- Start FSI aircraft initial (2 weeks maybe?)
Jan 22- Finish Initial training & LOFT
Jan 27- Released to IOE

I don't think that things will move this quickly, it's just an example.

Question 1- Is there a new shortened Indoc for recalls and is it approved by the FAA / POI yet ?

Question 2- Will NJ put guys back into the fleets they were previously in?

Question 3- If you go back to your old fleet, can NJ just run you through an FSI recurrent or do you need the whole new initial training class?

Question 4- If your fleet is gone (ala the U-boat or honeywell hawker) can NJ put recalls into the Global fleet. The contract only mentions that new-hires can't be put into over 40k aircraft. Disclaimer- I hate international flying.

Question 5- Are there enough IOE / Training Capt's to handle the increased IOE.

Question 6- How many empty legs are you doing and how long will it take guys to get their 10 or 20 bounces to complete IOE?

What say you?

 

[johnsonrod]

Good questions above. What is the lowest seniority fleet at this time? Beechjet? Phenom 300?

 

[fischman]

No one knows these answers yet, as it has never been done at this company before. You know how they like to reinvent the wheel.

This is all rumor, and I don't have anything else to add other than we are flying a lot, occupied hours are up, and we are selling planes again.

 

[fischman]

Understand it based on what? Some more info as to what has been said that would make any active pilot think this would be nice. Especially when we have had no such communication from NJASAP. Thanks.

Based on nothing. There is no more info.

 

[BentOver]

Based on nothing. There is no more info.

If there is no info then how did you two come up with a rumor about a recall decision being made in November? There are still a lot of guys who's future depends on NJA and speculating on a recall without any info gets the hopes up of a lot of people

 

[-FlyAuburn-]

If there is no info then how did you two come up with a rumor about a recall decision being made in November? There are still a lot of guys who's future depends on NJA and speculating on a recall without any info gets the hopes up of a lot of people

Good question. Pretty irresponsible FI or not.

 

[billybob]

I don't know who is higher on my sh!t list. The EMT or Njasap. It's like who do I hate more my cheating ex or the guys f-ing her.







..........or myself for flying.

 

[brokeflyer]

I don't know who is higher on my sh!t list. The EMT or Njasap. It's like who do I hate more my cheating ex or the guys f-ing her.







..........or myself for flying.

well, the guy f'ing her may not know she's taken....but that lying b!tch knows for sure....

 

[billybob]

Ok F that b!tch. Now I want my 180K

 

[fischman]

If there is no info then how did you two come up with a rumor about a recall decision being made in November? There are still a lot of guys who's future depends on NJA and speculating on a recall without any info gets the hopes up of a lot of people

I didn't come up with a rumor. I read what fly low wrote and was able to comprehend it.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Good questions above. What is the lowest seniority fleet at this time? Beechjet? Phenom 300?

To hear some tell it, it's the G-IV......

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