Most well known accident?

[FN FAL]

I'm with minitour, Tenerife or Lockerbie.

Neither of which are accidents.

 

[FN FAL]

Overall: Titanic, Chernobyl, Bhopal, and finally the Andrea Doria, made famous by the Seinfeld episode.

Flying: Tenerife, the Hindenburg, Eastern L1011 in the Everglades.

29 December 1972; Eastern Airlines L1011; near Miami, FL: The aircraft had a controlled flight into terrain in the Everglades swamp. While approaching Miami at night, the crew allowed the aircraft to enter a shallow descent while they were attempting to diagnose a minor equipment failure. Five of the 13 crew members and 94 of the 163 passengers were killed.

Accident? Negligent act.

 

[FN FAL]

Courtesy of http://www.airsafe.com

11 May 1996; ValuJet Airlines DC9-32; Near Miami, FL:
The aircraft was on a domestic flight from Miami to Atlanta. A fire had started in one of the cargo compartments at some point after the cargo had been loaded. Shortly after departure, the crew reported smoke in the cockpit, and soon lost control of the aircraft. The aircraft went into a steep dive, crashing into the Florida Everglades about 15 miles (24 km) from the airport. All 105 passengers and five crew members were killed.

Some people still do not believe that oxygen canisters caused that fire...

http://members.aol.com/papcecst/vj592.html

 

[GravityHater]

probably because I was becoming aware of airplanes at the time but the airliner that physically lost an engine (pylon failure due to maintenance damage -used a forklift on the engine or something) coming out of Ohare in the late 70s and rolled on its back.

 

[YourNameHere]

Besides 9/11, the Tenerife accident is still the worst to date in terms of fatalities with 583 killed.

 

[Bongo]

What difference does the source of fire have to do with anything. I read through the link posted above, and I fail to understand what difference the source of ignition would have made in the final outcome. Regardless of the source of ignition, or what direction the plane was heading in the preceding minute before the crash, or the EXACT time at which the airplane crashed has no bearing on the final outcome of the situation. Maybe I am failing to pickup up on something here, but I'm not sure if re-opening this accident report will do anything, besides possibly substantiating a very poor conspiracy theory.


Opening the accident investigation will reveal no new evidence in my mind. The lessons that were learned from this investigation hopefully have been applied to present day operations.

--Bongo

 

[flyifrvfr]

This one was pretty memorable.

http://www.airdisaster.com/photos/aa191/photo.shtml

 

[FN FAL]

What difference does the source of fire have to do with anything. I read through the link posted above, and I fail to understand what difference the source of ignition would have made in the final outcome. Regardless of the source of ignition, or what direction the plane was heading in the preceding minute before the crash, or the EXACT time at which the airplane crashed has no bearing on the final outcome of the situation. Maybe I am failing to pickup up on something here, but I'm not sure if re-opening this accident report will do anything, besides possibly substantiating a very poor conspiracy theory.

What difference does the source of ignition have to do with anything? I guess you're right...what difference does it make if the government pins the broken Airbus horizontal stabilizer on the co-pilot? What difference does it make, indeed?

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

Me.

 

[Reebo]

Concorde

 

[User546]

I have to say with almost certainty that JFJ Jr. was the most well know accident - especially among non-aviation people.

Everyone, whether they like aviator or not all knows about it. Its probably the one question/opinion I get asked about the most from people when they find out I'm a pilot.

Sure Tenerife, Lockerbie, and the Korean Air incidents were well know, but if you mentioned any three of those names to people, it probably wouldn't strike a chord.

Say JFK Jr. on the other hand, and everyone will know.

 

[I.P. Freley]

(Tenerife or Lockerbie) Neither of which are accidents.

Tenerife was most certainly an accident. No terrorism or other intentional acts of destruction were involved.

 

[C425Driver]

United 232 in Sioux City, IA. Captain Al Haines became a CRM role model as a result of that accident.

C425Driver

 

[FN FAL]

Tenerife was most certainly an accident. No terrorism or other intentional acts of destruction were involved.

If I floor my car at a red traffic light and "accidentally" hit someone driving through the intersection...is that REALLY an accident? Or is it a negligent act?

If I'm not mistaken, the pilot of the KLM attempted to take off without an ATC clearance.

 

[I.P. Freley]

If I floor my car at a red traffic light and "accidentally" hit someone driving through the intersection...is that REALLY an accident? Or is it a negligent act?

If I'm not mistaken, the pilot of the KLM attempted to take off without an ATC clearance.

For the record the airplane didn't attempt a takeoff, it DID take off. It just happened to hit another airplane immediately thereafter. KLM was just far enough off the ground to basically rip the top half off the other 747 involved in the, *ahem*, accident.

If you are going to discount "negligent acts" from inclusion as "accidents", you are writing off 2/3 of the airline accidents that have ever occurred. I think you're being a wee bit too literal in your application of the term "accident". As far as I'm concerned, every crash mentioned in this thread (and dozens more) are all accidents, whether the circumstances were indeed "accidental" or the result of negligent acts. I understand your point about perhaps not including terrorist acts, but anything else is absolutely fair game.