Midwest looking for 50 seat A/C

[MNMoose]

Anything new, any new rumors! BUMP!

 

[jws717]

yes, Wisconsin will be shifting 50 seaters from us airways to midwest and replacing them with 90 seaters on the airways side.

 

[Superpilot92]

yes, Wisconsin will be shifting 50 seaters from us airways to midwest and replacing them with 90 seaters on the airways side.

Why would US air want more CRJ 90 seaters now that they are getting the 190's at mainline? Just a honest question

 

[Highflight1977]

Eastshore aviation just sold off stock in US Air and might be looking for a place to invest it. It worked with US Air maybe they are going to try a repeat. Invest in Midwest Airlines or buy Skyway then put in our -200s which would free up room on the US side to add 900s?

I'm going with that rumor. Yes, I started it.

I have a better rumor - Just heard from a buddy that's in training right now... We are going to use our 50 seats that are under airways colors and replace them with 70 seaters. You know airways hates the 50 seaters, so it makes everyone happy..

What's it all mean bazil? Who friggen knows.

 

[DOJET1]

here we go again

 

[n757st]

Why would US air want more CRJ 90 seaters now that they are getting the 190's at mainline? Just a honest question

Air Wisconsin has a contract to fly 70 RJs for US Air. Air Wisconsin has the ability through our contract to replace our 50 seaters with EMB-170, CRJ-700 or CRJ 900 aircraft. AWAC has always said they do not see the long term economics of the 70 seater, and if US has the option I am sure they would choose 86 seats vs 72 and 70. The problem has always been that IF... IF AWAC wants to grow into the 90, they need to find places to put the 50 because the 50s are on something like 25 year leases, and everyone knows how much are in the desert. US Air has been on record saying they have too much 50 seat feed and would prefer more 70 and 90 seaters to the 50.

 

[PDTGIMP]

What's crazy about this is how it seems like yesterday when Rakeesh Ganwal was on a VHS tape sent to every US Airways employee in August 2001 saying how "we need more reeeegional jeetz."

I kept a copy of US Airways News from that month proclaiming US Airways will enter the RJ era with mainline flying 50 seaters....what a bunch of idiots.

Seriously, it's funny that US Airways changes its business model once every six months....and it usually does not involve the term "profitability."

 

[foreverfo]

yes, Wisconsin will be shifting 50 seaters from us airways to midwest and replacing them with 90 seaters on the airways side.

Not if the pilots have a say so...they want to see the 900s gone as it is

 

[jws717]

Do you mean the main line guys? last i checked they did not want to take recalls to fly the 190. So the 90 seat programs seem to be free for the taking, one mans trash?

 

[BoilerUP]

While *all* 90 seat flying should be at mainline, I wouldn't be suprised to see 705s or 900s configured with 82-84 seats in a two-class configuration if a move is made that way. Its painfully obvious Airways needs more 70-100 seat airframes and less 50 seaters...its just a matter of what planes are selected and what company the crew's IDs have on them.

And if I'm not mistaken, AWAC's 146 rates are higher than the mainline E190 rates, so thats strike 1 & 2 against 90 seaters...

Bring on the Q400s!:laugh:

 

[jws717]

While *all* 90 seat flying should be at mainline, I wouldn't be suprised to see 705s or 900s configured with 82-84 seats in a two-class configuration if a move is made that way. Its painfully obvious Airways needs more 70-100 seat airframes and less 50 seaters...its just a matter of what planes are selected and what company the crew's IDs have on them.

And if I'm not mistaken, AWAC's 146 rates are higher than the mainline E190 rates, so thats strike 1 & 2 against 90 seaters...

Bring on the Q400s!:laugh:

At the top of the payscale 16 years, mainline is 5 dollars cheeper. however all the main line boys are at 16 year pay. Wisconsin captains are on average 5 year pay. I do agree that 90 seaters should be at mainline, but what if regoinals have better pay for the same type?

 

[1973Arrow]

And if I'm not mistaken, AWAC's 146 rates are higher than the mainline E190 rates, so thats strike 1 & 2 against 90 seaters...

Strange that even when AWAC's rates were 'that high', those 146 routes through the mountains were highly profitable for Wisconsin and for UAL...

 

[jws717]

Strange that even when AWAC's rates were 'that high', those 146 routes through the mountains were highly profitable for Wisconsin and for UAL...

And that was before the pay cut!

 

[DOJET1]

yes, Wisconsin will be shifting 50 seaters from us airways to midwest and replacing them with 90 seaters on the airways side.

and how did find out did unca tim tell you

 

[pilotmyf]

yes, Wisconsin will be shifting 50 seaters from us airways to midwest and replacing them with 90 seaters on the airways side.

You are one sharp FO, any sources to back that up?
Yeah, didn't think so, any other rumors?