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727C47 said:
whats up j-man?
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Hey dude,

What's up. I am glad I am not at MG anymore. A lot more stress free here even though we have our own basket 'o problems. Just glad to be away from the ole NWA mentaility. More days off and more pay for less work...me likey that. Even though I wished I could have been the skipper on the 72, I just couldn't hang around anymore and the though of commuting to reserve just did not sit well with me anymore. What little goodwill I had left was beyond used up. Gee, I dont what I'll do with Darcy screaming at me on a daily basis.

Later...
 
N524UP Started out with:
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Cargo Lux
Tower Air N104TR
UPS N524UP
Polar Air N105TR
Trade Winds N524UP
 
Unless A300 Capt are willinng to go as F/O on the 74 im about as qualified as youll get from the pool as F/O s. But dont worry im gonna stay here at my current job were i make more than you as a Capt plus i wouldnt wanna go and pinpoint all your errors. hahahahahahahahaha. with all your qualifications and still at tradewinds, something must be wrong.
 
federico said:
Unless A300 Capt are willinng to go as F/O on the 74 im about as qualified as youll get from the pool as F/O s.
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Wow, if your are as qualified as they come...I didn't know the A-300 program was in that much of a dire straight.
 
By the way Mr Theodude those mins published are an excuse so guys cant transition and all you 747 crybabies wont go down in seniority. 5000ttl 1000PIC Jet with those mins who in the hell would stay at Tradewinds unless you have something in your past.
Tradewinds transitions mins higher than
Focus
Southern
Arrow
cathay
eva
China airlines
Signapore cargo
Ana
Airtran
Miami air
Just to mention a few

Hmmmmmmmmm what a way to hire people off the street and and forget the 40 plus guys on the street
 
What percentage of the bus pilots do you think meet those numbers? I would think most. Which number do you think disqualifies most of the potential transitioners?

Just saw in another thread that there may be a bunch of Atlas guys with 74 classic type-ratings on the street looking for work.
 
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So what are you saying Mr Draginass that tradewinds should blow off the seniority list and hire the atlas guys.
 
Not necessarily. Just wanted to know about what the stats are. Looking at the seniority list, it looks like there are a lot of FOs that were passed over for Captain on the bus. Wondering why that is.

I agree that you should stay with what you got if you have a good gig now. The ups and mostly downs of the 74 side are dispiriting. If a 300 guy can hold on without getting furloughed, I'd recommend that they sit tight and wait for a new fleet type to bid onto rather than get locked into the 74s. Quality of life on the 74s is getting worse by the month.
 
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The only F/O that that was turned down for the upgrade was on the current list transitioned to the 747 and he is on the top of the list. As far as new equipment your very hopeful. I was called back in november to fly december and the promiss that i would not be laid off. People senior to me were put on the street. Of course i wasnt stupid enough to believe them and also had insider info that 2 a300b4s were being sold in turkey.
 
How come there's many FOs senior to quite a few Airbus Captains? On the 74, I could understand since it's a new fleet type and there were direct hire captains. On the Airbus side, that programs much more mature, so I'd expect to see almost all the captains senior and FOs junior.
 
Look get to the point white boy. Are you saying the nobody was upgraded because they suck without even flying with them. To answer you question the most senior f/o s are f/e who just upgraded to first officers. No senior f/o have quit we all were furloughed or took a LOA. During the last chief pilots administracion their were no capt transition only f/e to f/o. No f/o on the current seniority list besided 2 guys have been giving upgrade evals which was the policy on the bus side. What you guys do on the junior 747 little kingdom um not aware of besides trashing a 747 in Colombia.
You can say and justify tdx all you want but flying when their are senior people on the street regardless off seat or equipment is no different than being a scab
 
Well, we just hired one of the furloughed A300 FO's here at Gemini.. At least that's one guy that found something.
 
Don't think Mr. Federico would know the truth if it hit him in the head:

Probably just bitter because he did not have the talent to upgrade at Tradewinds, the easiest place on the planet.

Instead he is calling folks scabs and ranting and raving about his former co-workers.

Sorry ya did not make it over here despite yer high seniority, try to fly the simulator right-side up next time.:rolleyes:
 
federico said:
Look get to the point white boy. Are you saying the nobody was upgraded because they suck without even flying with them. To answer you question the most senior f/o s are f/e who just upgraded to first officers. No senior f/o have quit we all were furloughed or took a LOA. During the last chief pilots administracion their were no capt transition only f/e to f/o. No f/o on the current seniority list besided 2 guys have been giving upgrade evals which was the policy on the bus side. What you guys do on the junior 747 little kingdom um not aware of besides trashing a 747 in Colombia.
You can say and justify tdx all you want but flying when their are senior people on the street regardless off seat or equipment is no different than being a scab
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Ah, really, I'm not trying to make a rhetorical question here. I really want to understand what's been going on the Airbus side. On face value, the Airbus seniority list looks pretty skewed for a mature fleet. FEs upgrading to FO is a bit of an anomoly in my experience, since most were PFE's, and not "second officers" in the usual sense. How many of the FOs on the list now are FE upgrades?

How did the Airbus wind up with 3 captains with seniority numbers above 80 and one at 100?
 
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CSY Mon said:
Don't think Mr. Federico would know the truth if it hit him in the head:

Probably just bitter because he did not have the talent to upgrade at Tradewinds, the easiest place on the planet. Thats probably why you are a Captain then.

Instead he is calling folks scabs and ranting and raving about his former co-workers. Just the 747 wannabess who are flyinf when senior people are on the street.

Sorry ya did not make it over here despite yer high seniority, try to fly the simulator right-side up next time.:rolleyes:
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Have a better job making more than you are.
 
Mr Csy. First off all no upgrades for the last 12months on the bus side. Before that people senior and street captains.
2, Talking about the truth hahahahah thats what has you hurt the most. Im so strait foward and direct I dont hide behind a cover name.
3.Enjoy your little wreck-a 747 outfit while it lasts. I cant wait too see your a$$ on the street when management comeup with another mastermind plan to change the fleet and furlough your A$$.
If anything I have said is not the truth prove it.
 
Have a better job making more than you are.__________________
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Congrats and enjoy Turkey.
Not sure ya have seen my W-2.

Talking about the truth hahahahah thats what has you hurt the most. Im so strait foward and direct I dont hide behind a cover name.
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Truth hurting me?
Sorry about ya not quilifying for an upgrade over here, based on yer reputation ya may not upgrade anywhere.


I cant wait too see your a$$ on the street when management comeup with another mastermind plan to change the fleet and furlough your A$$.
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Thanks for the well wishes. You are truly a pro.


If anything I have said is not the truth prove it.
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Where do I start?
The scab comment?
 
Im not in Turkey buddy but nice try. Didnt qualify hmmmmmmmmm dont think so. my last line check in I was recommended, plus i dont have any hidden past. At my new company sim intructor recommended for upgrade also. Working out Jaa loop wholes at this moment. Oh what else do you call somebody who takes somebodys else job. Senoir people to you were furloughed period. And about my reputation well watch out for your wife or girlfriend because ill probably have her if i meet her,
 
Oh what else do you call somebody who takes somebodys else job.
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A scab is somebody who crosses a picket line, as if a pilot group is on strike.

Figured I had to explain that, you don't seem too bright.

At any rate, I ain't responding more to yer crap.
 
This is fun. Keep at it!
 
First of all your mama isnt that bright either. I know the meaning of a scab but bottom line a scab is a pilot screwing another pilot like you are. Second your the one who started this forum so proudly announcing massive furloughs. if you had any inteligence whats so ever you would have kept quiet knowing you are the one who should have been laid off.
 

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