Massive furloughs at Tradewinds

[727C47]

whats up j-man?

 

[CSY Mon]

That what happens to an airplane that spends any time in the service of Tower Air.

Huh, did Tower Air use 524..?

News to me, but maybe so.
What was the FF tailnumber back then?

 

[80for80]

Ok there flamebaiter/ aka GuppyKiller/Thegout/and a few other names. You been out searching the aircraft leases again? I am surprised you didn't list a few other places that airframe has been. Yes, we got rid of 524 last summer.

We know you do not work for UPS, Tower or AA. You might want to consider dropping the screen name 80for80. I know a few AA capts that would kick your butt just for mentioning that and rightfully so

Hate to break it to you, but I used to fly 524. It is an oddball -200. We jokingly referred to it as a -150. It had J series JT9 engines. Totally different weights than the rest of our -200s.

 

[federico]

I SORRY TO INFORM YOU GUYS THE GUYS FIRED FROM FEDEX CATHAY JETBLUE AIRJAMAICA ARE ON THE 747 SIDE. CHECK WITH HUMAN RESOURCES. pLUS ON THE AIRBUS SIDE WE LOST ONE OUT OF TWO CONTRACTS NOT 4 OUT 5 AND THE ONE LEFT IS BORDERLINE.

 

[CSY Mon]

We jokingly referred to it as a -150. It had J series JT9 engines. Totally different weights than the rest of our -200s.

Yup, we had a -150 over at Tower Air...613, or 615 was it?
Same bird..(Turd) ?

I SORRY TO INFORM YOU GUYS THE GUYS FIRED FROM FEDEX CATHAY JETBLUE AIRJAMAICA ARE ON THE 747 SIDE. CHECK WITH HUMAN RESOURCES. pLUS ON THE AIRBUS SIDE WE LOST ONE OUT OF TWO CONTRACTS NOT 4 OUT 5 AND THE ONE LEFT IS BORDERLINE.

We had an Air Jamaica guy on the 747 fleet for a while.
He came from the Airbus side after having flown capt there a few years.
I tried to train him, but refused to sign him off.
After 100 hours IOE he got signed off as an F/O, barely.
He got fired 6 months ago anyway.

Not sure he represents the direct hire capts on the 747 fleet?

Don't know the ex- FedEx, JetBlue or Cathay guy ya are talking about:
They got fired from their previous company, then came here as a direct entry captain on the B-747?

Don't think so....

 

[federico]

Mr Csy Yes they did. And as for blaming transition guys for Tradewinds 747 bleeps and blunders asa far as I know the Pic on the Mde accident wasnt a transition boy, even worse he was a in house upgrade. Did you refuse to sign him off also. If Tradewinds would have used transition guys initially they wouldnt be the MIGHTY DUCKS of the 121 supplemental 747 operators.

 

[CSY Mon]

If Tradewinds would have used transition guys initially they wouldnt be the MIGHTY DUCKS of the 121 supplemental 747 operators.

They should have asked you when they introduced the 747 fleet, and all problems would have been avoided.?

 

[federico]

The truth hurts.

 

[Thedude]

Hey Freddie,
I just talked to a little birdie to today and the 747 training program is about to open up for a select few. Some will be allowed to make the transition to the A-300 to the F/O seat in the 747, provided they meet certain criteria. The letter should be going out shortly. But here is the best part. You proabaly still don't qualify as the mins are quite high....hahahaha.

 

[Thedude]

Hate to break it to you, but I used to fly 524.

What, as a loadmaster??!!


Move along there flame-troll.

 

[Thedude]

whats up j-man?

Hey dude,

What's up. I am glad I am not at MG anymore. A lot more stress free here even though we have our own basket 'o problems. Just glad to be away from the ole NWA mentaility. More days off and more pay for less work...me likey that. Even though I wished I could have been the skipper on the 72, I just couldn't hang around anymore and the though of commuting to reserve just did not sit well with me anymore. What little goodwill I had left was beyond used up. Gee, I dont what I'll do with Darcy screaming at me on a daily basis.

Later...

 

[Zoneload]

N524UP Started out with:
Air IndiaVt-EFJ
Cargo Lux
Tower Air N104TR
UPS N524UP
Polar Air N105TR
Trade Winds N524UP

 

[federico]

Unless A300 Capt are willinng to go as F/O on the 74 im about as qualified as youll get from the pool as F/O s. But dont worry im gonna stay here at my current job were i make more than you as a Capt plus i wouldnt wanna go and pinpoint all your errors. hahahahahahahahaha. with all your qualifications and still at tradewinds, something must be wrong.

 

[Thedude]

Unless A300 Capt are willinng to go as F/O on the 74 im about as qualified as youll get from the pool as F/O s.

Wow, if your are as qualified as they come...I didn't know the A-300 program was in that much of a dire straight.

 

[federico]

At least with havent trashed any A300s

 

[federico]

By the way Mr Theodude those mins published are an excuse so guys cant transition and all you 747 crybabies wont go down in seniority. 5000ttl 1000PIC Jet with those mins who in the hell would stay at Tradewinds unless you have something in your past.
Tradewinds transitions mins higher than
Focus
Southern
Arrow
cathay
eva
China airlines
Signapore cargo
Ana
Airtran
Miami air
Just to mention a few

Hmmmmmmmmm what a way to hire people off the street and and forget the 40 plus guys on the street

 

[Draginass]

What percentage of the bus pilots do you think meet those numbers? I would think most. Which number do you think disqualifies most of the potential transitioners?

Just saw in another thread that there may be a bunch of Atlas guys with 74 classic type-ratings on the street looking for work.

 

[federico]

So what are you saying Mr Draginass that tradewinds should blow off the seniority list and hire the atlas guys.

 

[Draginass]

Not necessarily. Just wanted to know about what the stats are. Looking at the seniority list, it looks like there are a lot of FOs that were passed over for Captain on the bus. Wondering why that is.

I agree that you should stay with what you got if you have a good gig now. The ups and mostly downs of the 74 side are dispiriting. If a 300 guy can hold on without getting furloughed, I'd recommend that they sit tight and wait for a new fleet type to bid onto rather than get locked into the 74s. Quality of life on the 74s is getting worse by the month.

 

[federico]

The only F/O that that was turned down for the upgrade was on the current list transitioned to the 747 and he is on the top of the list. As far as new equipment your very hopeful. I was called back in november to fly december and the promiss that i would not be laid off. People senior to me were put on the street. Of course i wasnt stupid enough to believe them and also had insider info that 2 a300b4s were being sold in turkey.