FLOPS Strike ballots are being sent out !!!

[gunfyter]

That sounds right to me...

 

[Sparse]

Want to see if I am reading the tea leaves correctly.

If I work for ABC Charter Company, and we get asked to fly a trip by FLOPS for a FLOPS owner, that is struck work that should be turned down.

If however, the FLOPS owners calls ABC Charter Company to book a trip himself, that is not struck work.

Did I get that right?

But if ABC charter is a non union company, their pilots have no protection if they refuse the trip. Struck work can only be honored by another union operator. While I would understand your position and support your right to strike, I would not risk my job to honor your picket line.

 

[gunfyter]

There ought a be a Law protecting people from being fired when honoring picket lines....

Maybe Obama can geterdone...?

 

[o2bflyn]

3. Furloughed pilots or pilots on LOA, currently working for other operators, who pick up charter work for Flight Options.

So...lets see if I understand your point correctly:

Lets say a Charter pilot who has never worked for a unionized fractional....so he/she is not furloughed/ on LOA, etc... , it is NOT struck work?

If the same Charter pilot is on furlough or LOA from ANY inionized fractional and they take a flight for FLOPS it IS struck work?

How am I doing?

 

[mxpilot2]

Off hand, I'd say if a pilot is going to be challenged to stand up against doing struck work, he should be entitled to vote in the action too.

Seems fair, if Turbo and Co. want the support of a whole industry.

I truly do feel for the Options pilots in this situation, but it's asking a bit much for others to risk their jobs to help yours, with no reward.

 

[o2bflyn]

I truly do feel for the Options pilots in this situation, but it's asking a bit much for others to risk their jobs to help yours, with no reward.

I agree with that 110%

 

[ArtVandalay]

Maybe this is what Options wants. A strike will happen and then they can sell the business and all of you will be screwed. Don't put it past them. I'd vote yes in a heartbeat though, good luck.

 

[glasspilot]

If there were a strike the guys on the picket line should be HAPPY to see a charter come in and fly the trips. It's bleeding the coffers of FLOPS management and that's what you would want...the company to bleed and realize it's far cheaper to get a CBA with the current pilots...who are just across the street...with big signs to help identify them....in uniform....walking in circles....shouting....


why is this hard?

 

[o2bflyn]

If there were a strike the guys on the picket line should be HAPPY to see a charter come in and fly the trips. It's bleeding the coffers of FLOPS management and that's what you would want...the company to bleed and realize it's far cheaper to get a CBA with the current pilots...who are just across the street...with big signs to help identify them....in uniform....walking in circles....shouting....


why is this hard?

EXACTLY!!! Glad someone else finally gets this point....

 

[jetwash]

If there were a strike the guys on the picket line should be HAPPY to see a charter come in and fly the trips. It's bleeding the coffers of FLOPS management and that's what you would want...the company to bleed and realize it's far cheaper to get a CBA with the current pilots...who are just across the street...with big signs to help identify them....in uniform....walking in circles....shouting....


why is this hard?

I agree as well. We all know how much FLOPS likes to put their customer on charter aircraft. Plus if the owners wanted to fly on charter aircraft they would not have bought shares or cards with FLOPS.

 

[skanza]

If there were a strike the guys on the picket line should be HAPPY to see a charter come in and fly the trips. It's bleeding the coffers of FLOPS management and that's what you would want...the company to bleed and realize it's far cheaper to get a CBA with the current pilots...who are just across the street...with big signs to help identify them....in uniform....walking in circles....shouting....


why is this hard?

It's hard because it doesn't make sense. Let's see: Cause the company to bleed dry because of your silly stike action. Yes, the very company -or source- that you want your increased salary to come from. So then after the bleeding, there's nothing. No increase, not even your former "low" salary.
Yeah, that makes fu(kin' sense....

 

[T-1GUY]

The red-eyed A$$hole just spoke... Anyone got some toilet paper???

 

[GhettoBeechjet]

It's hard because it doesn't make sense. Let's see: Cause the company to bleed dry because of your silly stike action. Yes, the very company -or source- that you want your increased salary to come from. So then after the bleeding, there's nothing. No increase, not even your former "low" salary.
Yeah, that makes fu(kin' sense....

"If we don't fix things around here we (Flight Options) will get the union we deserve." You know who that quote is from Ed? It was your sponser Bob Tyler in a meeting shortly before the union vote. Here is the thing Ed, management created and hasn't fixed the problems at Flight Options. They could have done it before the union vote or afterwards via a contract. They haven't. So far instead they have chosen to engage in a pissing contest with the employees. They are now facing their last opportunity to do the right thing by working with the pilots to start to fix the company. If not, guess what, you are right there may be no company left. In that case management, the pilots, the other employees, and even people on "special deals" like you will lose. This has turned into a very dangerous game of chicken which may yield no winners. Fix the problems or close the doors so quality employers like Netjets can expand.

 

[jonjuan]

Fix the problems or close the doors so quality employers like Netjets can expand.

does quality include losing $350 million in 6 months? Don't think they are exactly expanding-they are continuing to shrink under the new hatchet-man, sokol.

 

[GhettoBeechjet]

does quality include losing $350 million in 6 months? Don't think they are exactly expanding-they are continuing to shrink under the new hatchet-man, sokol.

NetJets loses are based on the fact that they have excess capacity. If Options management chooses to continue on the present self destructive course Flight Options owners will be looking for lift at the competition which should solve Netjets capacity issues.